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Scuba Forum / General / April 2004New Gear Purchases
Yesterday I went to town and picked up some dive gear. I bought Dive Rite products. Got a steel plate and straps with pockets to hold weights. Got the double hosed bladder. I'm told this equipment is good for a variety of diving. I'm going to try it out this month in Grand Cayman. The shop also sells DUI dive suits and I'm thinking that's what I need for local dives. I also put on hold two steel tanks and weights. He did not have the bands in stock so I did not pay for the tanks. Now I need to figure out which regulators to buy. It would be nice if I could take all this gear with me to try it out. I won't say what this gear cost because the wife might read this someday but this sport sure isn't cheap. The wife has a new clothes dryer. Rocky > Yesterday I went to town and picked up some dive gear. I bought Dive Rite > products. Got a steel plate and straps with pockets to hold weights. Got > the double hosed bladder. Double hosed bladder? > I'm told this equipment is good for a variety of > diving. I'm going to try it out this month in Grand Cayman. I hope you're body is a bit buoyant. If not, you may find the stainless plate alone to be more weight than you like for warm water diving. It suits me just right, but that's not true for everybody. > Now I need to figure out which regulators to buy. Depends on what kind of diving you're going to do. If you're diving in cold enough water, something suggested by your drysuit comments, you're going to want something that resists freezing up. Lacking experience with cold water, I'll leave that one up to those that have some. If you're planning some extreme caving, check to see what the WKPP or other DIR groups are using these days and why. They generally chose well and for good reasons, even if they do go overboard in pushing their choices on others. Lee >>Yesterday I went to town and picked up some dive gear. I bought Dive Rite >>products. Got a steel plate and straps with pockets to hold weights. Got >>the double hosed bladder. > > Double hosed bladder? Probably a dual bladder. >>Now I need to figure out which regulators to buy. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > using these days and why. They generally chose well and for good reasons, > even if they do go overboard in pushing their choices on others. Good advice. Also, see what other divers are using in the areas where you plan on doing your diving. Where I dive (NY/NJ/LI), the water temp is from the low 40's to upper 50's during the fall. People dive with Apeks, Oceanics, Sherwoods, ScubaPro's, and Poseidon Odins. They all seem happy with the regs they dive with. Look for a shop where the regs can be well maintained. >>>Yesterday I went to town and picked up some dive gear. I bought Dive Rite >>>products. Got a steel plate and straps with pockets to hold weights. Got >>>the double hosed bladder. [snip]> >Probably a dual bladder. > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >seem happy with the regs they dive with. Look for a shop where the regs >can be well maintained. From 59?44'N 10?34 E, water temperature on today's dive 2?-5?C, some personal opionions on regulators. Apeks made a very good set of regulators, the TX 50 and the accompanying first stages (either the DST or the DS4, depending on whether you want the swivel. For a plate/wing I'd go for the DS4) . Then they had to redesign it. The DST has this super-wide hole for the main second; this may complicate installation of a long hose. Oceanic also makes a good set of regs, but not all are equally suited for cold water. The omega is solid and comfortable, but the air it gives is so cold I cannot stand it in the winter; even though it is my favourite in warmer waters. It is a pilot-construction (but a downstream one, not as the Odin/Jetstream) so it may not be DIR. I have no experience with Sherwoods. Scubapro has only a few models suitable for cold water. They have gotten themselves a reputation here as "Scubablow"; quite undeserved. It is due to regulators bought in warmer waters an brought here. For Poseidon's; both the Cyclon and the Odin/Jetstream really needs the cold-water kit applied. This is an external blob with alcohol; and kind of defeats the idea of frost safety. They also need a service guy that really know them; otherwise you'll get bad results. In addition I'll recommend Aqua-Lung's regulators. -- mrr > For Poseidon's; both the Cyclon and the Odin/Jetstream really needs > the cold-water kit applied. This is an external blob with alcohol; [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > -- mrr I haven't found this to be true.. I have used poseidons for many years.. I have done numerous ice dives with groups and none of us has EVER had a poseidon freeze, (lots of apeks, sherwoods and scubapros though) and none of us add the cap with alcohol.. If it is going to freeze it will most likely be on the surface.. Its a good idea to not breathe any reg on the surface when Ice diving.. A big cause of reg freeze ups is too much moisture in the breathing gas, some designs freeze up internally because the pressure drop causes a temp drop, the poseidons dont seem to be effected probably due to its gas path.. >>>Yesterday I went to town and picked up some dive gear. I bought Dive Rite >>>products. Got a steel plate and straps with pockets to hold weights. Got [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >Good advice. Also, see what other divers are using in the areas where >you plan on doing your diving. Why? My gear config is good anywhere. Is water wetter there? Laser > Yesterday I went to town and picked up some dive gear. I bought Dive Rite > products. Got a steel plate and straps with pockets to hold weights. Got [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > dryer. > Rocky Now you just need a dry suit, trimix and you're ready for the Andria Doria. Are you sure you're not Fiona Watson's husband? Adam > Now you just need a dry suit, trimix and you're ready for the Andria Doria. Are you sure > you're not Fiona Watson's husband? Better get there quick. The promenade deck has collapsed in on itself. The wreck is deteriorating rather fast. > Better get there quick. The promenade deck has collapsed in on itself. > The wreck is deteriorating rather fast. Little did they know, but the tableware that they had been liberating over the years was the only thing holding the promenade deck up... <grin> >>Better get there quick. The promenade deck has collapsed in on itself. >>The wreck is deteriorating rather fast. > > Little did they know, but the tableware that they had been liberating over > the years was the only thing holding the promenade deck up... <grin> Yeah... all the china and stuff too. The message <LHCbc.14158$lt2.12366@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net> from "Adam Helberg" <sendspamhere@yahoo.com> contains these words: > Now you just need a dry suit, trimix and you're ready for the Andria > Doria. Are you sure > you're not Fiona Watson's husband? If you're going to name me, at least get the wreck right, Andrea Doria holds no interest whatsoever for me, completely the wrong era and type of vessel > Adam > Yesterday I went to town and picked up some dive gear. I bought Dive Rite > products. Got a steel plate and straps with pockets to hold weights. Got [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > dryer. > Rocky Unless you're built like a Michelin Man a steel plate in the Caribbean may be too heavy and leave you with no weights you can ditch in an emergency. It's also a pain to carry. You can plan your weighting with the free buoyancy simulator: http://www.hammerheadpress.com/pages/simulator.html Adam > > Yesterday I went to town and picked up some dive gear. I bought Dive Rite > > products. Got a steel plate and straps with pockets to hold weights. Got [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Adam I just tried this simulator and it seems to be way off. With a 3/2 mm suit I need a total of 16lbs (Cozumel). The simulator shows me as 13 lb neg buoyant with no air in BC at surface, which is hard to believe. Adam #"Adam Helberg" <sendspamhere@yahoo.com> wrote in message #news:EuEbc.14411$lt2.8752@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net... #> #> "Rock The Diver" <DontEmailMe@SpamSucks.net> wrote in message #> news:3Czbc.764$KG2.1532@reggie.win.bright.net... #> > Yesterday I went to town and picked up some dive gear. I bought Dive Rite #> > products. Got a steel plate and straps with pockets to hold weights. Got #> > the double hosed bladder. I'm told this equipment is good for a variety of #> > diving. I'm going to try it out this month in Grand Cayman. The shop also #> > sells DUI dive suits and I'm thinking that's what I need for local dives. #> > I #> > also put on hold two steel tanks and weights. He did not have the bands in #> > stock so I did not pay for the tanks. Now I need to figure out which #> > regulators to buy. It would be nice if I could take all this gear with me #> > to try it out. I won't say what this gear cost because the wife might read #> > this someday but this sport sure isn't cheap. The wife has a new clothes #> > dryer. #> > Rocky #> #> Unless you're built like a Michelin Man a steel plate in the Caribbean may #> be too heavy #> and leave you with no weights you can ditch in an emergency. It's also a #> pain to carry. #> You can plan your weighting with the free buoyancy simulator: #> #> http://www.hammerheadpress.com/pages/simulator.html #> #> Adam # #I just tried this simulator and it seems to be way off. With a 3/2 mm suit I #need a total #of 16lbs (Cozumel). The simulator shows me as 13 lb neg buoyant with no air in #BC at #surface, which is hard to believe. # # Thus pointing out, once again, the difference between people who give advice on Usenet based on what they think they know, versus people who give advice based on what they actually know. > #"Adam Helberg" <sendspamhere@yahoo.com> wrote in message > #news:EuEbc.14411$lt2.8752@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net... [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > advice on Usenet based on what they think they know, versus people who > give advice based on what they actually know. All information should to be verified. No information is infallible, whether it's word-of-mouth, in books or on the Usenet. Adam #"Alan Street" <alan@nonono_irsi.com> wrote in message #news:030420042017471619%alan@nonono_irsi.com... #> # #> #I just tried this simulator and it seems to be way off. With a 3/2 mm suit I #> #need a total #> #of 16lbs (Cozumel). The simulator shows me as 13 lb neg buoyant with no air #> in #> #BC at #> #surface, which is hard to believe. #> # #> # #> #> Thus pointing out, once again, the difference between people who give #> advice on Usenet based on what they think they know, versus people who #> give advice based on what they actually know. # #All information should to be verified. No information is infallible, whether #it's #word-of-mouth, in books or on the Usenet. # # That may be true, but experienced people give advice that verifies, while newbies give advice that often doesn't. Unfortunately, newbies can't recognize other newbies, which leads to newbies buying air integrated computers, "simulation" software, and H.U.B.s. > That may be true, but experienced people give advice that verifies, > while newbies give advice that often doesn't. Unfortunately, newbies > can't recognize other newbies, which leads to newbies buying air > integrated computers, "simulation" software, and H.U.B.s. Not to mention spare deaths, dual bladders, and bondage wings...  Signature"We're going to rush the hijackers." -Jeremy Glick, aboard United Airlines flight 93, September 11, 2001 > #"Alan Street" <alan@nonono_irsi.com> wrote in message > #news:030420042017471619%alan@nonono_irsi.com... [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > can't recognize other newbies, which leads to newbies buying air > integrated computers, "simulation" software, and H.U.B.s. Nothing wrong with gas-integrated computers. Been using Oceanic Datamax Pro for many years and have been quite pleased. Your objection, other than personal preference? In article <x0Vcc.53198$He5.1022322@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>, Randy Buckner <Randybuckner@att.net> wrote: #"Alan Street" <alan@nonono_irsi.com> wrote in message #> That may be true, but experienced people give advice that verifies, #> while newbies give advice that often doesn't. Unfortunately, newbies #> can't recognize other newbies, which leads to newbies buying air #> integrated computers, "simulation" software, and H.U.B.s. # #Nothing wrong with gas-integrated computers. Been using Oceanic Datamax Pro #for many years and have been quite pleased. Your objection, other than #personal preference? # # I don't like replacing a simple mechanical gauge with a piece of electronics. Also, the information they give is more of a crutch than a tool. > I don't like replacing a simple mechanical gauge with a piece of > electronics. Also, the information they give is more of a crutch than a > tool. Nice to have everything in once place. One single glance tells me tank pressure, depth, and NDC time remaining. Excess retinal movement is a major cause of high air consumption and DCS. > > I don't like replacing a simple mechanical gauge with a piece of > > electronics. Also, the information they give is more of a crutch than a [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > pressure, depth, and NDC time remaining. Excess retinal movement is a major > cause of high air consumption and DCS. but i thought that most lawyers were shifty eyed... > In article > <x0Vcc.53198$He5.1022322@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>, Randy [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > electronics. Also, the information they give is more of a crutch than a > tool. So you are still using two cans with a string instead of a telephone, eh? ;-) > > In article > > <x0Vcc.53198$He5.1022322@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>, Randy [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > So you are still using two cans with a string instead of a telephone, eh? > ;-) Since when did a string and 2 cans become a simple mechanical gauge? > So you are still using two cans with a string instead of a telephone, eh? No, he wants to live. Signature"We're going to rush the hijackers." -Jeremy Glick, aboard United Airlines flight 93, September 11, 2001 >> In article >> <x0Vcc.53198$He5.1022322@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>, Randy [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >So you are still using two cans with a string instead of a telephone, eh? >;-) Of course not. But in my opinion, a digital pressure gauge or an AI computer "solves" a problem that doesn't exist, and adds unnecessary complexity. > >> In article > >> <x0Vcc.53198$He5.1022322@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>, Randy [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > computer "solves" a problem that doesn't exist, and adds unnecessary > complexity. It doesn't add any complexity for me, rather it simplifies my dive. I don't like multi-level dive tables. I find that a dive computer allows me more freedom and extended time underwater, plus increases the safety margin (if you read/believe the same dive literature I've seen on the subject). I dove for many years without a computer and many years with a computer. I prefer the latter. To each their own. > It doesn't add any complexity for me, rather it simplifies my dive. I don't > like multi-level dive tables. I find that a dive computer allows me more > freedom and extended time underwater, plus increases the safety margin (if > you read/believe the same dive literature I've seen on the subject). I dove > for many years without a computer and many years with a computer. I prefer > the latter. To each their own. Funny, most of the people I know who have been diving for "many years" dont use tables or a wrist computer, let alone an air integrated one. The finest dive computer made is located directly between your ears, and is installed at the factory. > > It doesn't add any complexity for me, rather it simplifies my dive. I > don't [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > The finest dive computer made is located directly between your ears, and is > installed at the factory. Funny, most of the old farts that I know use AI computers, a few use non-AI computers, none without them. You obviously can't turn your life over to a chip, you have to stay aware, but the computer has done good by me, which is all that really counts bottom line. Personal choice, not a badge of honor. In article <GD1dc.32541$vo5.1028715@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>, Randy Buckner <Randybuckner@att.net> wrote: > Funny, most of the old farts that I know use AI computers, a few use non-AI > computers, none without them. And her name is? Signature"We're going to rush the hijackers." -Jeremy Glick, aboard United Airlines flight 93, September 11, 2001 > In article > <GD1dc.32541$vo5.1028715@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>, Randy > Buckner <Randybuckner@att.net> wrote: > > ? Funny, most of the old farts that I know use AI computers, a few use non-AI > ? computers, none without them. > > And her name is? ISAM. Those are about the only folks I dive with anymore, although we do an occasional trip to Coz to escape the rainy season blues. I think the youngster in the crowd is around 40, with Hans pushing 83 and still going strong. Does some nice photography. In article <KLddc.34552$vo5.1100069@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>, Randy Buckner <Randybuckner@att.net> wrote: > > And her name is? > > > ISAM. Those are about the only folks I dive with anymore, although we do an > occasional trip to Coz to escape the rainy season blues. I think the > youngster in the crowd is around 40, with Hans pushing 83 and still going > strong. Does some nice photography. whoosh... Signature"We're going to rush the hijackers." -Jeremy Glick, aboard United Airlines flight 93, September 11, 2001 > > >> In article > > >> <x0Vcc.53198$He5.1022322@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>, Randy [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > for many years without a computer and many years with a computer. I prefer > the latter. To each their own. IIRC, he said "air integrated" computers - not computers in general. Dennis > In article > <x0Vcc.53198$He5.1022322@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>, Randy [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > electronics. Also, the information they give is more of a crutch than a > tool. but with analog gauges in the console, and an air integrated computer, you have reliability, redundancy, and air consumption. with air comsumption, you have air remaining, and as you come up the reef, you can actually keep time remaining almost constant, say at 15 min, for about 45 min. In article <x0Vcc.53198$He5.1022322@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>, Randy Buckner <Randybuckner@att.net> wrote: > Your objection, other than personal preference? Stroke alert. Signature"I know we're going to die. There's three of us who are going to do something about it." -Tom Burnett, aboard United Airlines flight 93, September 11, 2001 > In article > <x0Vcc.53198$He5.1022322@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>, Randy [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Stroke alert. Usual drivel instead of an answer, but then I do not expect more. Thanks for your insightful reply. > > Stroke alert. > > > Thanks for your insightful reply. All it rated. You're welcome. Signature"We're going to rush the hijackers." -Jeremy Glick, aboard United Airlines flight 93, September 11, 2001 > ? > Stroke alert. > ? > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > You're welcome. In your opinion, which is worth about as much as my old 1971 US Divers reg. Maybe we can sell you on E-bay though........... In article <OF1dc.32547$vo5.1029369@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>, Randy Buckner <Randybuckner@att.net> wrote: > In your opinion, which is worth about as much as my old 1971 US Divers reg. [snicker] Signature"We're going to rush the hijackers." -Jeremy Glick, aboard United Airlines flight 93, September 11, 2001 > #"Adam Helberg" <sendspamhere@yahoo.com> wrote in message > #news:EuEbc.14411$lt2.8752@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net... [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > advice on Usenet based on what they think they know, versus people who > give advice based on what they actually know. I came across this simulator when I was searching the Web for a dive simulator to determine how a single tank dive effects tissue N2 loading vs depth of dive, but did not try it then. I like the idea of using simulators-- they are used in pilot training, space and in medicine. Some are very accurate. We use simulators in anesthesia and cardiac arrest training and they're very useful. If the buoyancy simulator was debugged it would be useful for deciding how much weight to take--at least to have a good starting point. Unfortunately this one appears to be a piece of garbage. Adam > > #"Adam Helberg" <sendspamhere@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > #news:EuEbc.14411$lt2.8752@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net... [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > be useful for deciding how much weight to take--at least to have a good starting point. > Unfortunately this one appears to be a piece of garbage. Why? have you tried the results? :-) Dennis > Adam >> Yesterday I went to town and picked up some dive gear. I bought Dive Rite >> products. Got a steel plate and straps with pockets to hold weights. Got [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >and leave you with no weights you can ditch in an emergency. It's also a pain to carry. >You can plan your weighting with the free buoyancy simulator: The aluminium plate from Dive Rite worked perfectly well in warm waters (Indonesia). And the combination was lighter to pack than a zeagle BCD. I used 4.5 kgs of lead with full 3mm. >http://www.hammerheadpress.com/pages/simulator.html Another fancy but useless program, when you don't take into account the weight of tanks and rig. -- mrr > Unless you're built like a Michelin Man a steel plate in the Caribbean may be too heavy > and leave you with no weights you can ditch in an emergency. It's also a pain to carry. Speaking from experience Sparky? I didn't think so. Brian Edmonton, Alberta > > Unless you're built like a Michelin Man a steel plate in the Caribbean may be too heavy > > and leave you with no weights you can ditch in an emergency. It's also a pain to carry. > > Speaking from experience Sparky? > > I didn't think so. Anything in particular give it away? <grin> Curtis > > > Unless you're built like a Michelin Man a steel plate in the Caribbean > may be too heavy [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Curtis The fact it was from Helberg was kinda a dead give away. The only other person here with less credibility is that chick from Belgium. And we'll forgive her because she doesn't dive (which makes one wonder why the f.ck she's here in the first place). Brian Edmonton, Alberta > > Anything in particular give it away? <grin> > The fact it was from Helberg was kinda a dead give away. You mean with all the expertice on computers? And I was going to ask him to run the numbers from yesterday's dive for me to check my tissue loading. <ctmrh> > The only other person here with less credibility is that chick from > Belgium. And we'll forgive her because she doesn't dive (which makes one > wonder why the f.ck she's here in the first place). Picking on Greg is good enough for me. <grin> Besides, she's probably here for the entertainment like a lot of us are, there are much more reliable sources of info available. Curtis >> > Anything in particular give it away? <grin> > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Besides, she's probably here for the entertainment like a lot of us are, >there are much more reliable sources of info available. Like Quest? > > Besides, she's probably here for the entertainment like a lot of us are, > >there are much more reliable sources of info available. > > Like Quest? Like some of my dive buddies, instructors, and others I have come to be acquainted with. Figure that way I can advance at my own pace without getting overwhelmed with too much at once, and from sources I trust. If this sounds generic, on the surface, it is, but I've always aspired to be above average in all my endeavors.......'nuf said. Curtis >> > Besides, she's probably here for the entertainment like a lot of us >are, [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > If this sounds generic, on the surface, it is, but I've always aspired >to be above average in all my endeavors.......'nuf said. Of your "above averageness" I have no doubt. Actually, the Quest comment was supposed to be a joke ;-) > If this sounds generic, on the surface, it is, but I've always aspired > to be above average in all my endeavors.......'nuf said. Well, perhaps until now. Signature"We're going to rush the hijackers." -Jeremy Glick, aboard United Airlines flight 93, September 11, 2001 > > The only other person here with less credibility is that chick from > > Belgium. And we'll forgive her because she doesn't dive (which makes one > > wonder why the f.ck she's here in the first place). > > Picking on Greg is good enough for me. <grin> You have to respect that kind of hero worship. Bringing in female non-diving foreign worshipers is no easy task. > > Picking on Greg is good enough for me. <grin> > > You have to respect that kind of hero worship. Bringing in female > non-diving foreign worshipers is no easy task. I don't know if I'd go that far, but gotta love anyone who can give you some grief. ;-) Curtis > Besides, she's probably here for the entertainment like a lot of us are, > there are much more reliable sources of info available. I dunno, here we got me, you, Street, His Holiness, Lee Bell, Scott... Who else do you need? Brian Edmonton, Alberta www.mossmanscubaventures.com > > Besides, she's probably here for the entertainment like a lot of us are, > > there are much more reliable sources of info available. > > I dunno, here we got me, you, Street, His Holiness, Lee Bell, Scott... > > Who else do you need? Punching bags like Greg, Fishie and Charlie. Which we also find here. > I dunno, here we got me, you, Street, His Holiness, Lee Bell, Scott... > > Who else do you need? (laughing) Well, I don't belong on any such list, I'm more student than teacher by a long shot.......difference is, I know it, and can spot a fake. Curtis > > I dunno, here we got me, you, Street, His Holiness, Lee Bell, Scott... > > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Well, I don't belong on any such list, I'm more student than teacher by > a long shot.......difference is, I know it, and can spot a fake. Who was your senior? > difference is, I know it, and can spot a fake. > > Who was your senior? Of the named group? Curtis > > difference is, I know it, and can spot a fake. > > > > Who was your senior? > > Of the named group? No, just f.cking with you. Anyone who ever served as a Marine can tell you the name of their Senior Drill Instructor in a heartbeat. If not, something is wrong. > Anyone who ever served as a Marine can tell you the name of their Senior > Drill Instructor in a > heartbeat. If not, something is wrong. A cadaver's heartbeat, really. That something is called time. "Scott"wrote > > > Who was your senior? > > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Drill Instructor in a > heartbeat. If not, something is wrong. Ah, sorry, raised by a Marine, not one. :-) Curtis > "Scott"wrote > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Ah, sorry, raised by a Marine, not one. :-) Try it on an old one, the oldest one you know. He will answer instantly, and then ask WTF you are up to. > Anyone who ever served as a Marine can tell you the name of their Senior > Drill Instructor in a > heartbeat. If not, something is wrong. Alzheimers? >> Besides, she's probably here for the entertainment like a lot of us are, >> there are much more reliable sources of info available. > >I dunno, here we got me, you, Street, His Holiness, Lee Bell, Scott... > >Who else do you need? Thank you for the compliment, but when it comes to diving I still have a way to go before I should be mentioned with such august company (and don't let Curtis get all modest on you. He's a great diver *and* a front line defender against Greg's overtures and teenage daughters :-). Also, you left out Popeye, Mike Gray, Randy Milak and probably quite a few others. > He's a great diver *and* a front line defender against Greg's > overtures and teenage daughters :-). We have serious questions about anyone that would mount a defense against teenage daughters. > Also, you left out Popeye, Mike Gray, Randy Milak and probably quite > a few others. Go figure. Signature"I know we're going to die. There's three of us who are going to do something about it." -Tom Burnett, aboard United Airlines flight 93, September 11, 2001 > We have serious questions about anyone that would mount a defense > against teenage daughters. Trust me, I hope I DO raise some serious questions in the mind of any boy that wishes to be around my daughter. I have little doubt I will. Curtis > > We have serious questions about anyone that would mount a defense > > against teenage daughters. > > Trust me, I hope I DO raise some serious questions in the mind of any > boy that wishes to be around my daughter. I have little doubt I will. This is when you clean the shotgun; "I understand you run track?" <sound of bore brush running full length of the thin chromoly barrel, and then back out> "How fast can you run?" <another long, slow pass> "Well, if ya cant do at least 1200 feet per second, you better keep that pecker in your pants." > This is when you clean the shotgun; > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > "Well, if ya cant do at least 1200 feet per second, you better keep that > pecker in your pants." I was thinking more like a tape of solid building materials yielding to human flesh, then asking how long he thinks it takes to find Romeo in a cave. ;-) Curtis > "Well, if ya cant do at least 1200 feet per second, you better keep that > pecker in your pants." Just the other night, Jeff Foxworthy or one of his associates said that his line to a perspective date goes something like, "If you have any idea about all the huggin and kissing stuff, there's one thing you should remember, I have no problem at all going back to prison." Lee > > We have serious questions about anyone that would mount a defense > > against teenage daughters. > > Trust me, I hope I DO raise some serious questions in the mind of any > boy that wishes to be around my daughter. I have little doubt I will. Who cares about boys? Signature"We're going to rush the hijackers." -Jeremy Glick, aboard United Airlines flight 93, September 11, 2001 #In article <J0Hcc.6826$HJ.4320@bignews4.bellsouth.net>, Curtis #<cavey_curtis@yahoo.com> wrote: # # > We have serious questions about anyone that would mount a defense # > against teenage daughters. # # Trust me, I hope I DO raise some serious questions in the mind of any # boy that wishes to be around my daughter. I have little doubt I will. # #Who cares about boys? We do, your lordship. > Thank you for the compliment, but when it comes to diving I still have > a way to go before I should be mentioned with such august company I didn't base my list on how much people know, but rather the fact that when they do offer advice it's usually correct. >Also, you left out Popeye, Mike Gray, Randy Milak and probably > quite a few others. Maybe a couple, but I can assure you some were deliberately left off because they didn't meet my standard for being mentioned. My list, my rules. Brian Edmonton, Alberta www.mossmanscubaventures.com > My list, my rules. Damn straight. When the list includes a god, one must maintain standards. Signature"We're going to rush the hijackers." -Jeremy Glick, aboard United Airlines flight 93, September 11, 2001 > >> Besides, she's probably here for the entertainment like a lot of us are, > >> there are much more reliable sources of info available. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > :-). Also, you left out Popeye, Mike Gray, Randy Milak and probably > quite a few others. I only hope I can someday be mentioned in those ranks... alas, it's the dream of a newbie... > Thank you for the compliment, but when it comes to diving I still have > a way to go before I should be mentioned with such august company (and > don't let Curtis get all modest on you. He's a great diver *and* a > front line defender against Greg's overtures and teenage daughters > :-). Also, you left out Popeye, Mike Gray, Randy Milak and probably > quite a few others. Well thank you very much for the compliment. Curtis >>>>Unless you're built like a Michelin Man a steel plate in the Caribbean >> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > Belgium. And we'll forgive her because she doesn't dive (which makes one > wonder why the f.ck she's here in the first place). Heh. I thought I was forgiven because I never claimed to have a clue about diving in the first place (yet). I'll be disappearing shortly, BTW, only to resurface: relocated and newly certified. There, I'm guessing, the real fun begins (and y'all can take the piss). And Curtis is spot on: though 'entertainment' is an understatement ;-) Being one of two NG's that I shouldn't read while drinking something: And that can never be bad. L. laurel <laurel@pandora.be> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in: : Being one of :two NG's that I shouldn't read while drinking something: And that can never be bad. Why not? Dan Bracuk If at first you don't succeed, you run the risk of failure. The Best of rec.scuba http://www.pathcom.com/~bracuk/RecScuba/ > laurel <laurel@pandora.be> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in: > : Being one of > :two NG's that I shouldn't read while drinking something: And that can never be bad. > > Why not? You are not that dense, but I'll humor you. I've got an old laptop and my keyboard would be rather expensive to replace. Mmmmmmmkay? Laurel > Dan Bracuk > If at first you don't succeed, you run the risk of failure. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! > -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- > Heh. I thought I was forgiven because I never claimed to have a clue about diving in > the first place (yet). Wrong. > I'll be disappearing shortly, BTW, only to resurface: relocated and newly certified. > There, I'm guessing, the real fun begins (and y'all can take the piss). Wrong. > And Curtis is spot on: though 'entertainment' is an understatement ;-) Being one of > two NG's that I shouldn't read while drinking something: And that can never be bad. Wrong. If you're drinking here, then you are a drunk as defined by Popeye's rules and you are here-by declared a lush forever more. Thank you for admitting it and you can never out-live it.... unless of course you also admit that you are on anti-depressants and anti-psychotics.... Salty wrote something-or-other that only makes sense to her: >>And Curtis is spot on: though 'entertainment' is an understatement ;-) Being one of >>two NG's that I shouldn't read while drinking something: And that can never be bad. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > course you also admit that you are on anti-depressants and > anti-psychotics.... If drinks containing alcohol are the only ones you consider consumable, then you really do have a problem. L. > If drinks containing alcohol are the only ones you consider consumable, then you > really do have a problem. So what other drinking do you consider drinking? >>If drinks containing alcohol are the only ones you consider consumable, > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > So what other drinking do you consider drinking? Well, gosh Greg. Water comes to mind - 2.5 liters per day, for example. Banana shakes (homemade for breakfast, with or without chocolate powder), fresh squeezed fruit juices, ginger ale, tea (black, green and selected herbal), coffee, hot chocolate, milk, chocolate milk, any sort of juice, apple cider (non fermented)... V8, etc, etc, etc. I do drink alcohol, just not enough to make me believe that's all there is in the world of beverages. Quality, as opposed to quantity. L. > > So what other drinking do you consider drinking? > > Well, gosh Greg. Water comes to mind - 2.5 liters per day, for example. So when someone suggests going out for a couple drinks after work, or you hear of someone having a drinking problem, you immediately think of water or milkshakes? Sure you do. >>>So what other drinking do you consider drinking? >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > hear of someone having a drinking problem, you immediately think of water or > milkshakes? Sure you do. That wasn't the context I was using. Your little lap-dog tried to spin it in that direction. The drinking problems I've had while reading something funny have involved coffee, tea, milk and ginger ale (the last of which I do not advise, as the bubbles play hell with your sinuses). L. > >>>So what other drinking do you consider drinking? > >> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > tea, milk and ginger ale (the last of which I do not advise, as the bubbles play hell > with your sinuses). Unfortunately not all posters comply with the rec.scuba Coke Alert treaty. Dennis > L. Dennis (Icarus) wrote: >>tea, milk and ginger ale (the last of which I do not advise, as the > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Unfortunately not all posters comply with the rec.scuba Coke Alert treaty. Which is why I *gasp* took matters of damage prevention into my own hands. God forbid this place ever become regulated... L. > Dennis (Icarus) wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Which is why I *gasp* took matters of damage prevention into my own hands. Personal responsibility - what a concept. :-) > God forbid this place ever become regulated... Aye. Dennis > L. > > > So what other drinking do you consider drinking? > > > > Well, gosh Greg. Water comes to mind - 2.5 liters per day, for example. > So when someone suggests going out for a couple drinks after work, or you > hear of someone having a drinking problem, you immediately think of water or > milkshakes? Sure you do. You're so patient with this one. Or maybe you just like to have fun. <grin> > If drinks containing alcohol are the only ones you consider consumable, then you > really do have a problem. Not my rules - Popeye's. Also, you've posted a whole bunch of dick jokes since you've been here. That's also against Popeye's rules. It will come back once you've fallen from his favor. Your time is limited. You'll see. > The only other person here with less credibility is that chick from > Belgium. And we'll forgive her because she doesn't dive (which makes one > wonder why the f.ck she's here in the first place). Most of us agree with you as far as her credibility issue. But most of us don't wonder why she's here in the first place because we can read between the lines. > The only other person here with less credibility is that chick from > Belgium. And we'll forgive her because she doesn't dive (which makes one > wonder why the f.ck she's here in the first place). Brian -- Hot chicks are welcome here no matter if they dive or not! (-: Kimber --- Scars heal... glory fades And all we're left with are the memories made, oh yeah Pain hurts, but only for a minute Yeah life is short so go on and live it Cause the chicks dig it > > The only other person here with less credibility is that chick from > > Belgium. And we'll forgive her because she doesn't dive (which makes one [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Hot chicks are welcome here no matter if they dive or not! (-: He didn't make her unwelcome, he just wondered why the f.ck she was here. There *is* a difference. Signature"We're going to rush the hijackers." -Jeremy Glick, aboard United Airlines flight 93, September 11, 2001 > € > The only other person here with less credibility is that chick from > € > Belgium. And we'll forgive her because she doesn't dive (which makes one [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > There *is* a difference. I caught it - having learned the hard way with Popeye, I took the time to study Curtis's style of writing so I knew what he meant when he said it. More importantly, Kimber thinks I'm hot... woo hoo! :-D OK... why the f.ck am I here? You'll figure it out in a few months when I start asking all the newbie questions that aren't listed in the FAQ or haven't been covered in threads since I've been here (and I promise to google first). Occasionally (and why I came to this zoo in the first place) my SO asks me to post a gear question. L. Roll the bones... > > > > The only other person here with less credibility is that chick from > > > > Belgium. And we'll forgive her because she doesn't dive (which makes one [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > I caught it - having learned the hard way with Popeye, I took the time to study > Curtis's style of writing so I knew what he meant when he said it. Follow the thread sweetie. Curtis didn't write anything you quoted. > More importantly, Kimber thinks I'm hot... woo hoo! :-D Don't get your panties wet. The jury is still out. > OK... why the f.ck am I here? You'll figure it out in a few months when I start > asking all the newbie questions that aren't listed in the FAQ or haven't been covered > in threads since I've been here (and I promise to google first). Please do. In fact google second and third as well. Everything has already been discussed before. > Occasionally (and why I came to this zoo in the first place) my SO asks me to post a > gear question. You mean you actually posted something on-topic here? Hell, I just thought you were our Angel-replacement. Brian Edmonton, Alberta www.mossmanscubaventures.com > Follow the thread sweetie. Curtis didn't write anything you quoted. How embarrassing. >>More importantly, Kimber thinks I'm hot... woo hoo! :-D > > Don't get your panties wet. The jury is still out. Kimber is the judge in this case. There is no jury. Yay link. That's curious. L. > > Follow the thread sweetie. Curtis didn't write anything you quoted. > > How embarrassing. I suspect I know what post caused any research. ;-) Curtis <snipping here and there> > Kimber is the judge in this case. Say no more. LMAO !! > Don't get your panties wet. The jury is still out. Pictures. Pictures would clear this right up in, well, a hot second. Signature"We're going to rush the hijackers." -Jeremy Glick, aboard United Airlines flight 93, September 11, 2001 laurel <laurel@pandora.be> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in: :Occasionally (and why I came to this zoo in the first place) my SO asks me to post a :gear question. Why doesn't he post it himself? Dan Bracuk If at first you don't succeed, you run the risk of failure. The Best of rec.scuba http://www.pathcom.com/~bracuk/RecScuba/ > laurel <laurel@pandora.be> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in: > :Occasionally (and why I came to this zoo in the first place) my SO asks me to post a > :gear question. > > Why doesn't he post it himself? Because I came here for the fins question when he was looking - and since sticking around, he figures it's easier for me to post than him learning how to navigate usenet. He is one of those rare people who works with computers all day and doesn't want to use it much at home. L. > Dan Bracuk > If at first you don't succeed, you run the risk of failure. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! > -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- laurel <laurel@pandora.be> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in: :Because I came here for the fins question when he was looking How did that work out? Did we tell you that fins were a good idea for diving? Dan Bracuk If at first you don't succeed, you run the risk of failure. The Best of rec.scuba http://www.pathcom.com/~bracuk/RecScuba/ > laurel <laurel@pandora.be> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in: > :Because I came here for the fins question when he was looking > > How did that work out? Did we tell you that fins were a good idea for > diving? :-p > Dan Bracuk > If at first you don't succeed, you run the risk of failure. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! > -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- > > ? > The only other person here with less credibility is that chick from > > ? > Belgium. And we'll forgive her because she doesn't dive (which makes one > > ? > wonder why the f.ck she's here in the first place). > > ? [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > More importantly, Kimber thinks I'm hot... woo hoo! :-D Well, for what its worth, so do I. <snip> > L. Why are we here? Because we're here. > Roll the bones... Dennis > I caught it - having learned the hard way with Popeye, I took the time to study > Curtis's style of writing so I knew what he meant when he said it. Let's see. We can learn this way.... ----- From: laurel (laurel@pandora.be) Subject: Re: Real consistent, for a Bush Newsgroups: rec.scuba Date: 2004-03-19 22:13:05 PST "That was the sort of smile given only to the truly delusional. And in relation to a paragraph you conveniently snipped. The sort of smile the psychiatrist gives you and says' that's nice' before ordering the nurse to administer your seditive." ----- Or we can learn this way.... From: Laurel (laurel@pandora_SBOXNOSPAM_.be) Subject: Re: An Olive Branch for Popeye... Newsgroups: rec.scuba Date: 2004-01-26 12:16:34 PST "Well, like I said, perhaps you'd be able to see them in a different light with another perspective. Since you can't see what I actually meant, I won't use that method anymore. I mean, I used winkies and *everything*, so I thought that would have given you a clue to my intent..." ---- > More importantly, Kimber thinks I'm hot... woo hoo! :-D But according to the public blog, you wouldn't fit in since you've said that you agree with the 'exit only' tattoo. > L. > Roll the bones... Well no... again according to the public blog, it would be more like roll the big blue toy. Bend over. Grab your Preparation H. > > >>I caught it - having learned the hard way with Popeye, I took the time to study >>Curtis's style of writing so I knew what he meant when he said it. > > Let's see. We can learn this way.... "We", White man? It appears from your scrambling, you haven't learned anything. One, you seem to think I'm male. Two, you assume I'd invite Popeye to join in the fun. Three, you take public flirting way too seriously. The slip of your jealousy is showing. Four, you're entirely too obsessed with the meaning behind my use of emoticons. L. > From: laurel (laurel@pandora.be) > Subject: Re: Real consistent, for a Bush [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > Well no... again according to the public blog, it would be more like > roll the big blue toy. Bend over. Grab your Preparation H. > "We", White man? Yep...but I'm certain my background isn't totally white. Ya wanna call me a nigger or should I call you one ?? > It appears from your scrambling, you haven't learned anything. And I won't learn anything from you, that's for sure. > One, you seem to think I'm male. No... I'm not sure what you are. And I think you aren't sure either. > Two, you assume I'd invite Popeye to join in the fun. I have no idea what you're talking about. From what the blog said and the convos I've seen, you'd be too busy getting the blue toy in your exit only to invite Popeye to do anything. > Three, you take public flirting way too seriously. The slip of your jealousy is showing. LOL !! This statement shows that you have no clue and that you haven't done a Google search. > Four, you're entirely too obsessed with the meaning behind my use of emoticons. No... I'm pointing out that you are a hypocrite. > More importantly, Kimber thinks I'm hot... woo hoo! :-D Absofuckinglutely I do! (-: Kimber > > More importantly, Kimber thinks I'm hot... woo hoo! :-D > > Absofuckinglutely I do! (-: > > Kimber What more proof do you need? A glowing report from Kimber is good enough for me. :-) Of course, I've seen the pics too and I'm pretty impressed. > > > More importantly, Kimber thinks I'm hot... woo hoo! :-D > > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Of course, I've seen the pics too and I'm pretty impressed. I'd like to add that I haven't seen THOSE pics... just the ones that were posted for the enjoyment of everyone... >>>>More importantly, Kimber thinks I'm hot... woo hoo! :-D >>> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > I'd like to add that I haven't seen THOSE pics... just the ones that were > posted for the enjoyment of everyone... man, I was getting jealous. SignatureSome people's only purpose in life is to serve as a bad example to others. > What more proof do you need? A glowing report from Kimber is good enough > for me. :-) (-: Thanks! > Of course, I've seen the pics too and I'm pretty impressed. Hah - you would be really impressed if you saw then one I have! Kimber > > What more proof do you need? A glowing report from Kimber is good enough > > for me. :-) [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Kimber Taunting only gets you in the bad books! Brian Edmonton, Alberta > Taunting only gets you in the bad books! Sorry Brian - wasn't meaning to taunt. Ki |
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