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Scuba Forum / General / April 2004Scuba Suggestions?
I have recently certified in scuba and now I would like to plan a scuba diving trip. I have no idea where to go. I would like to stay in the states, so if anyone has any suggestions please let me know. Megan S. asks: >>I have recently certified in scuba and now I would like to plan a scuba diving trip. I have no idea where to go. I would like to stay in the states, so if anyone has any suggestions please let me know.<< Well, you came to the wrong place. This is a political bullshit discussion group. Nobody talks about Scuba here anymore. (Saves time though, I just read the headers and delete them all.) > Megan S. asks: > >>I have recently certified in scuba and now I would like to plan a scuba [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Nobody talks about Scuba here anymore. > (Saves time though, I just read the headers and delete them all.) You were sure a lot of help. > I have recently certified in scuba and now I would like to plan a > scuba diving trip. I have no idea where to go. I would like to stay in > the states, so if anyone has any suggestions please let me know. If you are in Utah (deciphered from your header), then I would strongly suggest you consider Puget Sound. http://staff.washington.edu/parker/scuba/reviews/pugetsound.html http://www.vibrantsea.net/puget.html > If you are in Utah (deciphered from your header), then I would strongly > suggest you consider Puget Sound. > > http://staff.washington.edu/parker/scuba/reviews/pugetsound.html > > http://www.vibrantsea.net/puget.html Assuming she is from Utah, perhaps she would like a little warmer waters? Actually, San Diego is closer than Seattle... SLC -> SEA = 597 nm... SLC -> SAN = 544 nm... I'm not saying that the waters around San Diego are *warm*, but they've got to be better than waters as far north as Seattle... My experience seems to alway be that you waste a day for travelling each way to a destination via a commercial air flight, so (other than the difference in cost of the ticket), going to the West Coast or East Coast doesn't make that much of a difference... Seems that we spend most of the time just getting to the airport, checking in our baggage, retrieving our baggage at the destination, and getting from the airport to the hotel at the destination... The actual flight time doesn't make that much of a difference when you factor in all that other stuff... Of course, this assumes that you have direct flights and not some of the round about routes that you sometimes get with Southwest Airlines (Reno -> Houston equaled Reno -> San Francisco -> San Diego -> El Paso -> Houston for me a few years back)... > Assuming she is from Utah, perhaps she would like a little warmer waters? > Actually, San Diego is closer than Seattle... SLC -> SEA = 597 nm... SLC -> > SAN = 544 nm... I'm not saying that the waters around San Diego are *warm*, > but they've got to be better than waters as far north as Seattle... But the diving here is incomparable. > My experience seems to alway be that you waste a day for travelling each way > to a destination via a commercial air flight, so (other than the difference [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > sometimes get with Southwest Airlines (Reno -> Houston equaled Reno -> San > Francisco -> San Diego -> El Paso -> Houston for me a few years back)... You can be diving an hour after you get off the plane here. > > Assuming she is from Utah, perhaps she would like a little warmer waters? > > Actually, San Diego is closer than Seattle... SLC -> SEA = 597 nm... [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > But the diving here is incomparable. From what I've heard, this is true, and I have to say that the diving in SD, especially for a beginner, isn't all that fantastic. La Jolla Cove is probably the best shore dive here, with the Coronados being the best boat dive for a beginner (wreck alley is fun, if kinda "Disneylandish", but it's not for someone who's just finished OW). That said, are the water temperatures in the PNW something a newbie can deal with? > > My experience seems to alway be that you waste a day for travelling each > way [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > You can be diving an hour after you get off the plane here. Here too. You can also easily take off with your hair still wet, if you're into that sort of thing ;-). Alan > > But the diving here is incomparable. > From what I've heard, this is true, and I have to say that the diving > in SD, especially for a beginner, isn't all that fantastic. La Jolla > Cove is probably the best shore dive here, with the Coronados being the > best boat dive for a beginner (wreck alley is fun, if kinda > "Disneylandish", but it's not for someone who's just finished OW). From what I've heard, no one has ever ranked PNW diving as "world class". In fact, no one has ever ranked PNW at all. The Channel Islands, OTOH, get called "world class" all the time by illustrious publications such as Rodales. LAX is only a few miles from San Pedro and other beach cities where one can catch a boat to Catalina and be diving in two hours if timed correctly (the Psalty V is a fast boat). For real diving, dive SoCal. > From what I've heard, no one has ever ranked PNW diving as "world class". > In fact, no one has ever ranked PNW at all. The Channel Islands, OTOH, get [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > For real diving, dive SoCal. Not taking into consideration traffic... LOL suds #"Alan Street" <alan@nonono_irsi.com> wrote in message #news:280320041729109405%alan@nonono_irsi.com... # #> > But the diving here is incomparable. # #> From what I've heard, this is true, and I have to say that the diving #> in SD, especially for a beginner, isn't all that fantastic. La Jolla #> Cove is probably the best shore dive here, with the Coronados being the #> best boat dive for a beginner (wreck alley is fun, if kinda #> "Disneylandish", but it's not for someone who's just finished OW). # #From what I've heard, no one has ever ranked PNW diving as "world class". #In fact, no one has ever ranked PNW at all. The Channel Islands, OTOH, get #called "world class" all the time by illustrious publications such as #Rodales. Funny how their "world class" dive sites always seem to be either close to large populations of divers (i.e., subscribers) or PADI 5-star destinations. LAX is only a few miles (read - 60~90 minutes during normal driving hours) from San Pedro and other beach cities #where one can catch a boat to Catalina and be diving in two hours if timed #correctly (the Psalty V is a fast boat). # #For real diving, dive SoCal. # # # Alan Street <alan@nonono_irsi.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in: :Funny how their "world class" dive sites always seem to be either close :to large populations of divers (i.e., subscribers) or PADI 5-star :destinations. What are these World Class sites? Are there any that aren't nice? Dan Bracuk If at first you don't succeed, you run the risk of failure. The Best of rec.scuba http://www.pathcom.com/~bracuk/RecScuba/ > For real diving, dive SoCal. Typical, missing reality...... FL East coast from Jupiter south.......not to mention our other real diving. ;-) Curtis > > For real diving, dive SoCal. > > Typical, missing reality...... > > FL East coast from Jupiter south.......not to mention our other real diving. > ;-) Hah. Just try stalking me in the kelp. I'd lose you in a heartbeat even without wearing my camo wetsuit. (Who was it again that had the camo wetsuit? I miss that guy. > Hah. Just try stalking me in the kelp. I'd lose you in a heartbeat even > without wearing my camo wetsuit. Well hell, if buddy separation is what you're after......I was thinking warm waters, easy diving, lots of sea life not big enough to eat you, great vis and colors. Hell, even (snip) wouldn't need a buddy leash. Besides, I reckon I could find some rather good hiding places in some of the places I frequent. Camo hell, just turn off the lights. <grin> > (Who was it again that had the camo wetsuit? I miss that guy. Not sure, but I met his buddy up in cave country shortly after. Friend of mine with a sense of humor introduced me as a dive buddy / friend of the guys his friend was insulting, nevermind the little detail that neither of us was in that verbal brawl. Anyway, loved the joke on the camo, but could pass on the rebuttal. ;-) Curtis > > Hah. Just try stalking me in the kelp. I'd lose you in a heartbeat even > > without wearing my camo wetsuit. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > us was in that verbal brawl. Anyway, loved the joke on the camo, but could > pass on the rebuttal. ;-) LOL, life is just full of coincidences. >>>But the diving here is incomparable. > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > For real diving, dive SoCal. OK... I wasn't going to mention Rodales and "illustrious publication" in the same sentance (at least not in this newsgroup :-), but since you brought it up the PNW got kudos in the last 2 issues: one in the top 10 wall dives and one in the top 10 shore dives. Jerry > OK... I wasn't going to mention Rodales and "illustrious publication" in > the same sentance (at least not in this newsgroup :-), but since you > brought it up the PNW got kudos in the last 2 issues: one in the top 10 > wall dives and one in the top 10 shore dives. Cite? > > OK... I wasn't going to mention Rodales and "illustrious publication" in > > the same sentance (at least not in this newsgroup :-), but since you > > brought it up the PNW got kudos in the last 2 issues: one in the top 10 > > wall dives and one in the top 10 shore dives. > > Cite? Rodales, in the last two issues. :^) > > > OK... I wasn't going to mention Rodales and "illustrious publication" in > > > the same sentance (at least not in this newsgroup :-), but since you [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Rodales, in the last two issues. Like I read the magazine? I figured anything really important would be on their website. Here's the Travel page for Western U.S.: http://www.scubadiving.com/travel/localdiving/westernu.s./0,7255,1-28-223-0,00.html I see California, Monterey, Hawaii, Santa Barbara Island, Hawaii, Catalina Island, Mendocino, Baja, San Diego, Santa Rosa (NM), Point Lobos, San Diego, and finally California. Am I missing something? There's also a link to the Top 100: Readers' Choice Awards http://www.scubadiving.com/article/0,7424,1-0-0-684,00.html I note that the Channel Islands comes in at #2 with a 92.9, an A in most people's gradebooks. Washington State comes in at 73.1, a definite C. Of all the "North America" spots that are within the U.S. (what the OP specified), the Channel Islands are #1. Now that's a cite. > > > > OK... I wasn't going to mention Rodales and "illustrious publication" > in [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Here's the Travel page for Western U.S.: http://www.scubadiving.com/travel/localdiving/westernu.s./0,7255,1-28-223-0,00.html > I see California, Monterey, Hawaii, Santa Barbara Island, Hawaii, Catalina > Island, Mendocino, Baja, San Diego, Santa Rosa (NM), Point Lobos, San Diego, > and finally California. Am I missing something? British Columbia? > There's also a link to the Top 100: Readers' Choice Awards > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Now that's a cite. :^) > > and finally California. Am I missing something? > > British Columbia? Oops, that's not in the US, sorry about that. Ort is that, sorry for you? >>OK... I wasn't going to mention Rodales and "illustrious publication" in >>the same sentance (at least not in this newsgroup :-), but since you >>brought it up the PNW got kudos in the last 2 issues: one in the top 10 >>wall dives and one in the top 10 shore dives. > > Cite? The articles apparently haven't made it to the website yet, but here's the reference: Rodale's Scuba Diving Magazine March 2004 (page 50) "The World's Best Wall Diving". Washington State tied for 3rd (along with Grand Cayman) Specifically they liked Day Island Wall, Point Defiance, and Waterman's Wall. 2nd place went to Little Cayman & Cayman Brac, and 1st place went to Palau. April 2004 (Page 54) "The World's Best Shore Diving". Washington State came in 5th, specifically for Seacrest Park. They also liked Kayak Point County Park and Sunny Side Park. 4th through 1st was Hawaii, British Columbia, U.S. Virgin Islands, and Bonair. > Rodale's Scuba Diving Magazine > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Point County Park and Sunny Side Park. 4th through 1st was Hawaii, > British Columbia, U.S. Virgin Islands, and Bonair. If this is true, it's the best evidence yet that Rodale's is a joke. Oh, I get it. April Fools. > March 2004 (page 50) "The World's Best Wall Diving". Washington State > tied for 3rd (along with Grand Cayman) Specifically they liked Day > Island Wall, Point Defiance, and Waterman's Wall. 2nd place went to > Little Cayman & Cayman Brac, and 1st place went to Palau. What bullshit. British Columbia has both Washington and Little Cayman beat, hands down. What a useless rag.  Signature"We're going to rush the hijackers." -Jeremy Glick, aboard United Airlines flight 93, September 11, 2001 > € March 2004 (page 50) "The World's Best Wall Diving". Washington State > € tied for 3rd (along with Grand Cayman) Specifically they liked Day [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > British Columbia has both Washington and Little Cayman beat, hands down. BC came in 6th. They liked Browning Wall for its colors. 5th went to Grand Turk & Salt Cay. > What a useless rag. They rated each site on a scale from 1 to 100... there's only 3 points difference between 2nd place and 6th. It looks like the results came from a survey, so is fairly subjective. > You can be diving an hour after you get off the plane here. I find that difficult to believe... It's *never* that quick to get your checked baggage... <grin> > > You can be diving an hour after you get off the plane here. > > I find that difficult to believe... It's *never* that quick to get your > checked baggage... <grin> You CAN do it. (Although traveling without any luggage and wearing your wetsuit on the plane may be going a little overboard. > You can be diving an hour after you get off the plane here. Hawaii is a State. And you can be diving w/in 1/2 hour of getting off the plane: sun, warm water, good looking girls, and NO REDNECKS! ;^) suds Try rec.scuba.locations. > I have recently certified in scuba and now I would like to plan a > scuba diving trip. I have no idea where to go. I would like to stay in > the states, so if anyone has any suggestions please let me know. Key West, Key Largo or anything in between them. > I have recently certified in scuba and now I would like to plan a > scuba diving trip. I have no idea where to go. I would like to stay in > the states, so if anyone has any suggestions please let me know. See Capt. Jim Wyatt at Florida Reef Divers http://www.reef-divers.com/ if you're in the lower keys. See Capt Lynn Simmons at Splashdown Divers in Boynton Beach if you're further north. www.splashdowndivers.com - David > Key West, Key Largo or anything in between them. > > > I have recently certified in scuba and now I would like to plan a > > scuba diving trip. I have no idea where to go. I would like to stay in > > the states, so if anyone has any suggestions please let me know. > I have recently certified in scuba and now I would like to plan a > scuba diving trip. I have no idea where to go. I would like to stay in > the states, so if anyone has any suggestions please let me know. What kind of diving interests you? Are you more into warm water with lots of pretty fishies kind of diving, or do things like kelp beds or big sea life sound interesting? Or maybe lakes, rivers, or even caverns (with some more training). The United States has an incredible variety of ecosystems you can dive in, so help us out by narrowing down the field a bit. Alan > I have recently certified in scuba and now I would like to plan a > scuba diving trip. I have no idea where to go. I would like to stay in > the states, so if anyone has any suggestions please let me know. I would recommend Florida. It has many interesting spots suitable for beginner and the warm water makes diving much easier. Adam |
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