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Beach rescue with bodyboard - Panama City Beach Florida June 13, 2003

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Ken - 17 Jul 2003 03:53 GMT
Here is a rescue that I was involved in a few days ago. I never did get the
girl's name. I would like to get in touch with her via email. If anyone
knows the girl in this story, please contact me by replying via email.
kjs1@cox.net

This took place on June 13, 2003 at the Dunes of Panama Condos in Panama
City Beach. I was bodyboarding with a life vest. Surf was high due to the
distant storm, Claudette.

There was a cry out. A female voice for sure. Loud enough for me to hear but
sounding of distress. A long two second low wail for "help". I turned my
board back out facing the open gulf. I could now see the face that went with
that chilling cry. She looked about 17 years old. Her face showed dispair.
She was thrashing, trying to swim against the rip current that she was
trapped in. The current was still quite strong even though we were about 150
meters from the beach. She was losing her struggle. Her head went under and
popped up. She coughed up water. I yelled at her, "don't panic, don't panic,
I'll get you, don't panic". She stopped thrashing. She was now treading
water.

I swam toward the rip. This rip was strong. I entered with my vest on and
the current quickly pulled me out toward the girl. The current suprised me.
It was so swift that I lost by boogie board, out side of the current. I was
about 20 feet from the girl and my board was about 10 feet away from me and
30 feet from her. Without this board, I don't think either one of us could
make it. I turned and had to swim back out of the rip to get the board. At
this point the girl started screaming "don't leave me, don't leave me!" I
yelled back, "I'm not going to leave you baby" I call my two children "baby"
and I guess at this point she was one of mine. I was not going to see this
girl drown.

It only took a few seconds to get my board. I was now in the rip and getting
close to her. I remember the water being somewhat cool. The bottom was at
least 15 feet down. I pushed my board to her out stretched hands. She
grabbed on. The current pulled me around to her back. I held on over her
back. I kicked out of the rip and started to head in.

Remembering that we were still behind the waves, I told her to be ready for
the waves to hit us. She said, "don't leave me" and coughed up some water. A
wave came in and gently lifted us up. I crashed about 10 meters inland. I
knew the next one would be bad. I was hoping that we could get in about
another 15 meters before the next wave. This would put us in the "wash" but
we would not get smashed with the full force of the wave. I could hear the
next wave break in back of us. I told her to get ready for some water. She
couldn't speak. The white water came and shook the board loose from my grip.
She began to screem for me not to leave her. I grabbed right back on. She
pleaded for me not to leave her. I again reassured her that I would not
leave.

I this point about 75 meters from shore I saw two other teen age girls in
neck deep water just staring into my face. They were scared. These girls, I
would later find out, were her friends she was swimming with when she got
caught in the current. I yelled at them to get to the beach. They turned and
went toward shore. Things were changing. I could now touch the bottom with
my feet.

I told her that I could touch the bottom. She assumed that this meant that I
was going to stand up and get her to stand. She screamed again, "don't leave
me". I again reassured her and began to kick in toward shore. We were about
40 meters out when I started walking on the sandy bottom pushing her in. She
finally stood up at about 10 meters from shore. She quickly collapsed face
down in the surf. Her friend ran out to us. I told her to help me. We got up
under her arms and dragged her in. She collapsed again. This time in the
sand of the beach......no more water. We turned her face up. She coughed up
some water. I looked in her eyes. She was ok. I yelled out that she was ok.
She struggled to a beach chair with her friend. She made it. This day, July
13th was surely the start of her "second chance at life". I left them alone.
I had other things to do.

I quickly stood up, life vest on, boogie board in my hand. I went down the
beach yelling at parents to get their kids out of the water. I said to more
than 20 families, "there is a red flag up, get your kids out of the water!"
I cleared the beach of young swimmers for 100 meters in each direction. I
walked back to the area and discovered that the girl and her friends had
went in. At this point I now realized I was being "pursued" by people that
wanted to know what happened. They they saw me drag the girl on shore and
then said "you ran down the beach!" It was at this point that I realized
that I did not see ANYONE execpt the "victim" and her friends. These are the
people that were directly in front of me. It was awhile later, when
explaining to a lifeguard what had happened, that I realized I had developed
"tunnel vision" during the rescue.
************************

If this story sounds familiar, please email me and let me know!

Thank you very much,

Kenny
XPEH - 17 Jul 2003 05:36 GMT
>She looked about 17 years old.

cabron, u betta leave this one alone or u'll be plastered all over the most
wanted along with V. Garcia, mareekon
Grumman-581 - 17 Jul 2003 06:17 GMT
Panama City, FL and someone using the metric system for measurements?  Nawh,
don't believe it...

Plus, it's too well written, it must be fake...
Mad Dog Hog - 17 Jul 2003 16:11 GMT
> Panama City, FL and someone using the metric system for measurements?  Nawh,
> don't believe it...
>
> Plus, it's too well written, it must be fake...

You nailed that.

MDH
Ken - 18 Jul 2003 00:45 GMT
Ok people,

Here I am again. I wrote the story...the story is true. I have a tendancy to
use the metric system for "meters". This came about while earning a degree
in biology.

Also...during my college days (which weren't very long ago!) I was required
to take four "english" classes. Two of these classes were "composition".

I was born and raised in New Orleans.......not Europe like some of you
thought! I was hoping you would like to hear a true story (sort of related
to surfing) that was semi-well written.

Thanks for reading,

Kenny

> Panama City, FL and someone using the metric system for measurements?  Nawh,
> don't believe it...
>
> Plus, it's too well written, it must be fake...
Grumman-581 - 18 Jul 2003 04:18 GMT
> Also...during my college days (which weren't very long ago!) I was required
> to take four "english" classes. Two of these classes were "composition".
>
> I was born and raised in New Orleans.......not Europe like some of you
> thought! I was hoping you would like to hear a true story (sort of related
> to surfing) that was semi-well written.

Which college?  I grew up in Louisiana...

That's what made it unbelievable... Especially since you now say that you
were a science major and from Louisiana... <grin>

You still in Louisiana or have you moved to FL?

Ok, here's a way to prove it... If someone was to ask you if you suck the
heads, what would they be talking about? <grin>
Greg Mossman - 18 Jul 2003 04:33 GMT
> Ok, here's a way to prove it... If someone was to ask you if you suck the
> heads, what would they be talking about? <grin>

Even I know that one and I've never set foot in Louisiana.  Damn bug
suckers.
Grumman-581 - 18 Jul 2003 04:48 GMT
> Even I know that one and I've never set foot in Louisiana.  Damn bug
> suckers.

Don't like crawfish, Greg?  I was in New Orleans a few weeks ago and
stumbled across a place near Lakefront Airport that was selling 10 lbs of
cooked crawfish for less that a dollar a pound (IIRC)... I bought 10 lbs of
them along with a dozen crabs (Grace likes them)... Kaitlyn ate a couple of
the crawfish, but I ate most of them... By the time I got through, my
fingers were quite wrinkled... You never really get full from eating
crawfish, you just get tired of pealing them...
Greg Mossman - 18 Jul 2003 04:54 GMT
> Don't like crawfish, Greg?  I was in New Orleans a few weeks ago and
> stumbled across a place near Lakefront Airport that was selling 10 lbs of
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> fingers were quite wrinkled... You never really get full from eating
> crawfish, you just get tired of pealing them...

I like crawfish, it's the head sucking that I'd pass on unless real drunk.
I don't suck shrimp heads or lobster heads either, so it's not that I'm
racist.

Don't you worry that real, real cheap crawfish may have been caught near a
sewer drainage pipe or somewhere equally lovely?  Or is that why you have a
little girl, as a sort of canary in a coal mine?
Grumman-581 - 18 Jul 2003 05:13 GMT
> I like crawfish, it's the head sucking that I'd pass on unless real drunk.
> I don't suck shrimp heads or lobster heads either, so it's not that I'm
> racist.

Ahhh... So if they get you drunk, you'll suck the heads?  Nawh, we just
won't go there... I'm sure someone else would be more than willing to make
the comment though... <grin>

Never considered it on shrimp or lobsters... Do some people do it on them?

> Don't you worry that real, real cheap crawfish may have been caught near a
> sewer drainage pipe or somewhere equally lovely?

I wouldn't be surprised if most of the crawfish are probably farm raised
these days... Quite a few years ago, a lot of the rice farmers in Louisiana
switched to raising crawfish... Same type of land needed for both (i.e.
flooded), but the bottom had pretty much dropped out of the rice market...

> Or is that why you have a little girl, as a sort of canary
> in a coal mine?

Damn, that's a good idea Greg... I hadn't thought of it that way... I guess
that's why you're a lawyer... <evil-grin>
Greg Mossman - 18 Jul 2003 06:17 GMT
> Never considered it on shrimp or lobsters... Do some people do it on them?

Sweet shrimp sushi: cut, peel and devein, and butterfly a live bugger and
serve him raw over a small handful of rice mixed with a tad of vinegar and a
dab of wasabi; deep-fry head and serve after.  Had an order the day before
yesterday.  (Of course you don't suck the contents out of the head, you
crunch down the whole thing - less waste)

Not sure about lobster.

> I wouldn't be surprised if most of the crawfish are probably farm raised
> these days... Quite a few years ago, a lot of the rice farmers in Louisiana
> switched to raising crawfish... Same type of land needed for both (i.e.
> flooded), but the bottom had pretty much dropped out of the rice market...

Don't see 'em too often around here, but I did back in the PNW.  Jake's
Famous Crawfish has been serving them in Portland since 1892.

> Damn, that's a good idea Greg... I hadn't thought of it that way... I guess
> that's why you're a lawyer... <evil-grin>

Heck, they're cheap and easy (and fun) to replace.  Well Grace might
disagree on the easy part, but you won't have any complaints and you'll have
another exciting photo op.  I'm surprised you never thought of it.

Plus the kid can do chores, and perhaps even fly your plane so you can get a
nap on the way to diving Florida.

How old is she now?  Jessica Dubroff was only 7 and she [almost] made it
cross-country.
Grumman-581 - 18 Jul 2003 06:29 GMT
> Sweet shrimp sushi

sushi = bait

> a dab of wasabi

Grace likes wasabi... I've tried it... Too bland for my taste...

> Don't see 'em too often around here, but I did back in the PNW.

When I was in Santa Barbara in 1979, I stopped off at the marina there and I
was talking with the guy who owned / worked in the ship's store... They had
crawfish there... I was surprised to see them there, so I asked him about
it... He said that they used them for bait... I looked at him somewhat
incredulously and told him that where I was from, we eat them... He looked
at me rather strangely... I guess the concept of eating mud bugs was
somewhat alien to him...

> Heck, they're cheap and easy (and fun) to replace.

Yep, 15 minutes worth of work for us... 9 mths or so for the woman...
Sometimes, I get compliments on Kaitlyn for whatever reason... My reply
usually is something like, "Yeah, not bad for 15 minutes worth of work"...
It kind of goes over their head initially, but then you see the lightbulb
light up above their heads and then they give you a really strange look...

> perhaps even fly your plane so you can get a
> nap on the way to diving Florida.
>
> How old is she now?  Jessica Dubroff was only 7
> and she [almost] made it cross-country.

She's 8 now... I let her fly my plane sometimes... Her courses are basically
shallow S-turns instead of straight lines... She can't quite see over the
panel yet...
Greg Mossman - 18 Jul 2003 06:40 GMT
> She's 8 now... I let her fly my plane sometimes... Her courses are basically
> shallow S-turns instead of straight lines... She can't quite see over the
> panel yet...

Just warn me if you ever decide to fly over Southern California so I can go
underground.
Grumman-581 - 18 Jul 2003 06:50 GMT
> Just warn me if you ever decide to fly over Southern California
> so I can go underground.

I haven't been back there since our trip to Pomona in 1997... Seriously
though, it's probably more difficult to learn how to ride a bicycle than it
is to fly a plane relatively straight and level... Landings are where it
counts though... Takeoffs are easy, straight and level flying is fairly
easy, landings are where you need to be proficient since most people die by
coming into contact with the ground at the wrong closure rate... <grin>
Dan Bracuk - 19 Jul 2003 01:15 GMT
"Grumman-581" <grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM.houston.rr.com> entertained us with:
:She's 8 now... I let her fly my plane sometimes... Her courses are basically
:shallow S-turns instead of straight lines... She can't quite see over the
:panel yet...

So her legs are long enough to control the rudder?

Dan Bracuk
As Big Ben said to the Leaning Tower of Pisa, I've got the time if you've got the inclinaion.
The Best of Rec.Scuba
http://www.pathcom.com/~bracuk/RecScuba/
Grumman-581 - 19 Jul 2003 01:34 GMT
> So her legs are long enough to control the rudder?

Nawh, she just controls the ailerons and the elevator... Kind of like the
ATPs in that respect from what I understand... <grin>
trnsprt - 22 Jul 2003 02:49 GMT
> Nawh, she just controls the ailerons and the elevator... Kind of like the
> ATPs in that respect from what I understand... <grin>

Ohhhhhh, that hurts. ;)

But you aren't that far off.  Not much reason to use them in flight on most
passenger category aircraft I have flown. Cross wind landings in Maui were
always fun in the 767 though!  And single engine work in the sim!!!  Talk
about rudder.  The nice instructors and check airmen would at least make
sure that your engine outs normally evened up so that one thigh didn't get
bigger than the other after 7 days of training :)

If you want rudder work though get a type on the Jetstream 32.  Holy moley.
That thing is like a happy dog ALL THE TIME.  And no autopilot.  Should be
paying those guys the big bucks instead of those of us who spent our time
reading the paper flying Long Haul!

TM
Grumman-581 - 22 Jul 2003 04:18 GMT
> Ohhhhhh, that hurts. ;)

No insult intended... Hell, even in my Cheetah the rudder pedals probably
don't get used except during takeoffs, landings, and approaches... Or when
I'm out flying along the Brazos at 500 ft trying to remain within its
banks... As long as you are doing very gradual turns, the rudder just isn't
needed that much...
trnsprt - 22 Jul 2003 04:42 GMT
> No insult intended... Hell, even in my Cheetah the rudder pedals probably

Oh, I know. <vbg>

There was a guy at the place I used to instruct SPG (Albert Whitted) in St.
Pete FL. who had a beautiful Cheetah.  I loved the lines of that plane.
Especially with the canopy.

It must be a great platform for flying down low on pretty days!  Especially
in the mountains.

Tom
Grumman-581 - 22 Jul 2003 04:49 GMT
> It must be a great platform for flying down low on pretty days!  Especially
> in the mountains.

If I'm in the mountains, I try to fly as high as I can... I'm a flatlander
(Houston, TX)... When I fly the Brazos, it takes about 75 nm to go a
straight line distance of perhaps 30 nm... A lot of very tight turns... I'm
probably banking at 80 degrees or so during some of the turns while trying
to stay within the banks of the river... Very fun practice...
Ken - 19 Jul 2003 01:47 GMT
Crawfish

> > Ok, here's a way to prove it... If someone was to ask you if you suck the
> > heads, what would they be talking about? <grin>
>
> Even I know that one and I've never set foot in Louisiana.  Damn bug
> suckers.
Ken - 19 Jul 2003 01:46 GMT
UNO

> > Also...during my college days (which weren't very long ago!) I was
> required
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> Ok, here's a way to prove it... If someone was to ask you if you suck the
> heads, what would they be talking about? <grin>
Grumman581 - 19 Jul 2003 05:03 GMT
> UNO

At Lakefront?
Ken - 19 Jul 2003 15:15 GMT
Yes......Lakefront New Orleans.............

> > UNO
>
> At Lakefront?
Grumman-581 - 19 Jul 2003 16:50 GMT
> Yes......Lakefront New Orleans.............

I was over there a couple of weeks ago at the Navy Advanced Technology
Center... Any idea what the history on that old small lighthouse a hundred
yards or so to the west of there?  It looks like it's about to fall down and
they have a fence around it to keep people away...

You still live in New Orleans or have you moved to FL these days...
Mad Dog Hog - 18 Jul 2003 15:59 GMT
> Here I am again. I wrote the story...the story is true. I have a tendancy to
> use the metric system for "meters". This came about while earning a degree
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> thought! I was hoping you would like to hear a true story (sort of related
> to surfing) that was semi-well written.

We care less than two sh.ts about what goes on above the water.  You are
shark food, which keeps the critters busy.

MDH
Greg Mossman - 17 Jul 2003 06:48 GMT
> Beach. I was bodyboarding with a life vest. Surf was high due to the
> distant storm, Claudette

> make it. I turned and had to swim back out of the rip to get the board. At
> this point the girl started screaming "don't leave me, don't leave me!" I
> yelled back, "I'm not going to leave you baby" I call my two children "baby"
> and I guess at this point she was one of mine. I was not going to see this
> girl drown.

> I this point about 75 meters from shore I saw two other teen age girls in
> neck deep water just staring into my face. They were scared. These girls, I
> would later find out, were her friends she was swimming with when she got
> caught in the current. I yelled at them to get to the beach. They turned and
> went toward shore. Things were changing. I could now touch the bottom with
> my feet.

> If this story sounds familiar, please email me and let me know!

Assuming you're over 18, you're sick and in need of serious help.  How often
do you "rescue" little girls like this while dressed in your "life vest"?

> I quickly stood up, life vest on, boogie board in my hand. I went down the
> beach yelling at parents to get their kids out of the water. I said to more
> than 20 families, "there is a red flag up, get your kids out of the water!"

Freak!
T - 17 Jul 2003 07:05 GMT
> about 20 feet from the girl and my board was about 10 feet away from me and
> 30 feet from her. Without this board, I don't think either one of us could
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> 40 meters out when I started walking on the sandy bottom pushing her in. She
> finally stood up at about 10 meters from shore.

Feet & metres?!

> I quickly stood up, life vest on, boogie board in my hand.

What happened to your shorts?
Glenn Woodell - 17 Jul 2003 11:16 GMT
>Here is a rescue that I was involved in a few days ago.

Facinating story. Thanks for your quick actions, but what did you rig?  :)

Glenn
 
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