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Michael Davis - 09 Mar 2004 19:24 GMT
Have you all heard of Clive Cussler? He is my favorite author. He has
written 20+ best-selling novels and has millions of fans worldwide. You
know what he does with his book royalties? He searches for lost
shipwrecks, airplanes etc... If you are familiar with Dr. Cussler or
would like to find out more about the author, his books, or his real
life adventures, take a moment to check out The Clive Cussler Forum. The
CCF is the fastest growing, soon to be the largest, Cussler community on
the net. The address is  http://s4.invisionfree.com/CLIVE_CUSSLER
Please take a moment to check this out...trust me, you will not be
sorry.  I look forward to seeing you there.

Cheers
Mike Davis
chilly - 09 Mar 2004 19:36 GMT
> Have you all heard of Clive Cussler? He is my favorite author.

He's your favorite author?  I'm so sorry.
Michael Davis - 09 Mar 2004 19:37 GMT
Fair enough that is your opinion.
Take care
Mike

>>Have you all heard of Clive Cussler? He is my favorite author.
>
> He's your favorite author?  I'm so sorry.
chilly - 09 Mar 2004 19:44 GMT
> Fair enough that is your opinion.
> Take care
> Mike

Hey Mike, don't go away mad . . .just, ah nevermind.

I've enjoyed a Cussler book or two myself but never found him a particularly
compelling author.

Frankly, your original post looks like spam and so in that case, you should
"go away".
Jammer Six - 09 Mar 2004 20:00 GMT
> Fair enough that is your opinion.

It's mine, too.

You don't know anything about diving, or you wouldn't be interested in
his writing.

So have a seat, and shut the f.ck up, OK?

Signature

"We're going to rush the hijackers."
    -Jeremy Glick, aboard United Airlines flight 93, September 11, 2001

Michael 182 - 09 Mar 2004 20:02 GMT
lol ... man, this is a tough crowd...

> ? Fair enough that is your opinion.
>
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>
> So have a seat, and shut the f.ck up, OK?
R Benner - 09 Mar 2004 20:23 GMT
This is mild. Stick around, bring popcorn. Try top posting, it really gets
them riled up. Mention spare air, split fins and they go ballistic. I love a
parade.

> lol ... man, this is a tough crowd...
>
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> >
> > So have a seat, and shut the f.ck up, OK?
chilly - 09 Mar 2004 20:36 GMT
> This is mild. Stick around, bring popcorn. Try top posting, it really gets
> them riled up. Mention spare air, split fins and they go ballistic. I love a
> parade.

Mention that you are a Christian and see what happens, eh Rudy?  ;^)
de Valois - 10 Mar 2004 15:47 GMT
chilly left this mess on Tue, 09 Mar 2004 20:36:59 GMT for The Way to clean up:

>> This is mild. Stick around, bring popcorn. Try top posting, it really gets
>> them riled up. Mention spare air, split fins and they go ballistic. I love
>a
>> parade.
>
>Mention that you are a Christian and see what happens, eh Rudy?  ;^)

Did anyone bring up sex and guns yet?

Tao te Carl
"It takes a village to have an idiot." - Carl (c) 2003

(Kudos to Cap'n Jim Wyatt for this link) BEFORE you ask a dumb-a.s question
here...http://www.speakeasy.org/~neilco/bart.gif
laurel - 10 Mar 2004 17:05 GMT
> chilly left this mess on Tue, 09 Mar 2004 20:36:59 GMT for The Way to clean up:
>
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>
> Did anyone bring up sex and guns yet?

If I don't get some this year, somebody shoot me...

L.
(will that do?)

> Tao te Carl
> "It takes a village to have an idiot." - Carl (c) 2003
>
> (Kudos to Cap'n Jim Wyatt for this link) BEFORE you ask a dumb-a.s question
> here...http://www.speakeasy.org/~neilco/bart.gif
John Francis CID - 11 Mar 2004 00:21 GMT
>> Did anyone bring up sex and guns yet?
>
>If I don't get some this year, somebody shoot me...
>
>L.
>(will that do?)

Baby, have you come to the right place. There are probably 25 guys
planning a coed rec.scuba dive trip proposal as we speak. Popeye would
be leading the herd, but I hear he's keeping busy. Somehow he seems to
have lost that drive to meet new rec scubans of late. Must be the new
job.  8)

JF

"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent their government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them."
- Thomas Jefferson (1743 - 1826)
de Valois - 11 Mar 2004 16:15 GMT
laurel left this mess on Wed, 10 Mar 2004 17:05:43 GMT for The Way to clean up:

>>chilly left this mess on Tue, 09 Mar 2004 20:36:59 GMT for The Way to clean up:
>>
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>L.
>(will that do?)

That helps. Anything I can do to assist you? I'm a lousy shot, I should add.

Tao te Carl
"It takes a village to have an idiot." - Carl (c) 2003

(Kudos to Cap'n Jim Wyatt for this link) BEFORE you ask a dumb-a.s question
here...http://www.speakeasy.org/~neilco/bart.gif
Alan Street - 09 Mar 2004 20:52 GMT
>This is mild. Stick around, bring popcorn. Try top posting, it really gets
>them riled up. Mention spare air, split fins and they go ballistic. I love a
>parade.

Send in the clowns

Don't bother, they're here
Michael Davis - 09 Mar 2004 20:55 GMT
Hey no prob....Im used to dealing with a bunch of dumb f.ckers...I work
as a police officer here in Maine. Hmm let me see. I was certified back
in 79, I went to the Ocean Corporation commercial diving school back in
82 and worked in the gulf for 5 years. Over the years I have been
licensed in advanced open diver, rescue diver, cavern diver, deep diver,
ice diver, night diver and master diver. About 5 years back I was
licensed as a master instructor. I have my paramedic license but back in
the late 80's I decided to become a police officer and I also work on a
state search and rescue dive team. I apologize for searching out a place
where fellow divers gather to let them know about a site that I found
interesting. By all means it wont happen again. Like I said earlier, I
am used to dealing with ignorant f.cks like Jammer Six and the other
piece of sh.t that originally answered me. I dont take offense to that
type of person...god forbid you ever come through my jurisdiction with
that attitude. But anyway take care and for all of the non-a.sholes on
this site....dive safe
Mike Davis

> € Fair enough that is your opinion.
>
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>
> So have a seat, and shut the f.ck up, OK?
chilly - 09 Mar 2004 21:02 GMT
> Hey no prob....Im used to dealing with a bunch of dumb f.ckers...I work
> as a police officer here in Maine. Hmm let me see. I was certified back
> in 79, I went to the Ocean Corporation commercial diving school back in
> 82 and worked in the gulf for 5 years.

Good thing you've got such a thick skin.  Being overly sensitive isn't a
great attribute in an officer of the law.

>Over the years I have been
> licensed in advanced open diver, rescue diver, cavern diver, deep diver,
> ice diver, night diver and master diver. About 5 years back I was
> licensed as a master instructor. I have my paramedic license but back in
> the late 80's I decided to become a police officer and I also work on a
> state search and rescue dive team.

And you still like the Cussler books for the dive stuff?

> I apologize for searching out a place
> where fellow divers gather to let them know about a site that I found
> interesting. By all means it wont happen again.

Cut off your nose to spite your face.   Hmm, another great attribute in a
law enforcement officer.

>Like I said earlier, I
> am used to dealing with ignorant f.cks like Jammer Six and the other
> piece of sh.t that originally answered me.

Piece of sh.t?  Well, how dare you!  I challenge you sir.  Ad hominem at 50
paces.

>I dont take offense to that
> type of person...

Glad to hear it.  Good attribute in a law enforcement officer.

>god forbid you ever come through my jurisdiction with
> that attitude.

Oh, whoops, I take that back.

>But anyway take care and for all of the non-a.sholes on
> this site....dive safe

Don't worry.  Most of us will and when not diving, we'll be reading better
authors.

By the way, Mike . . . you say were searching for fellow divers?  And you
don't think you found them here?  Oh yeah, and this was your first entry
into our newsgroup?  Hmmm . . ..

> > ? Fair enough that is your opinion.
> >
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> >
> > So have a seat, and shut the f.ck up, OK?
Jammer Six - 09 Mar 2004 21:16 GMT
> By the way, Mike . . . you say were searching for fellow divers?

That's what he says.

What he's really doing is trying to drum up hits on his site.

He's a pinhead with a badge, and he's bitter because college boys keep
beating him in court.

I'd be bitter, too, but it's one of those things that doesn't happen to
me.

Signature

"We're going to rush the hijackers."
    -Jeremy Glick, aboard United Airlines flight 93, September 11, 2001

chilly - 09 Mar 2004 21:24 GMT
> ? By the way, Mike . . . you say were searching for fellow divers?
>
> That's what he says.
>
> What he's really doing is trying to drum up hits on his site.

Do ya think?

> He's a pinhead with a badge, and he's bitter because college boys keep
> beating him in court.

LOL, he's getting beaten here too.

> I'd be bitter, too, but it's one of those things that doesn't happen to
> me.

You'd be bitter?  I couldn't be more surprised.
Jammer Six - 09 Mar 2004 21:13 GMT
> Hey no prob....Im used to dealing with a bunch of dumb f.ckers...I
> work as a police officer here in Maine. Hmm let me see. I was
> certified back in 79, I went to the Ocean Corporation commercial
> diving school back in 82 and worked in the gulf for 5 years.

You're new. We know. Everyone's new once.

> Over the years I have been licensed in advanced open diver, rescue
> diver, cavern diver, deep diver, ice diver, night diver and master
> diver. About 5 years back I was licensed as a master instructor.

And a stroke as well. We knew that, too.

> I apologize for searching out a place where fellow divers gather to
> let them know about a site that I found interesting.

f.ck all that. This sounds like the apologies my daughter used to
deliver, when she was about thirteen.  Grow up, learn how real
apologies are delivered, then try again.

> By all means it wont happen again.

Thank god. Now get the f.ck out.

> Like I said earlier, I am used to dealing with ignorant f.cks like
> Jammer Six and the other piece of sh.t that originally answered me.

Yeah, we see that. You're a f.cking expert, and you handled this so
well, huh?

Do you lie often, or just on the internet?

Do you lie in court?

> I dont take offense to that type of person...god forbid you ever come
> through my jurisdiction with that attitude.

If we do, you won't have anything to say about it or us.

You're protesting too f.cking much, but you don't understand that
reference, do you?

> But anyway take care and for all of the non-a.sholes on this
> site....dive safe

We always do.

Now have a seat, and shut the f.ck up. Again.

Signature

"We're going to rush the hijackers."
    -Jeremy Glick, aboard United Airlines flight 93, September 11, 2001

Michael Davis - 09 Mar 2004 21:20 GMT
LOL Ill give you a call tonight f.cker....or at least the registered
owner of jammer@invalid.oz.net until then.
Mike

> € Hey no prob....Im used to dealing with a bunch of dumb f.ckers...I
> € work as a police officer here in Maine. Hmm let me see. I was
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>
> Now have a seat, and shut the f.ck up. Again.
Jammer Six - 09 Mar 2004 23:06 GMT
> LOL Ill give you a call tonight f.cker....or at least the registered
> owner of jammer@invalid.oz.net until then.
> Mike
>
> > > By all means it wont happen again.

Yup, he lies.

We bet that he's not a cop, that he doesn't dive.

Either one of those would explain his having a hard on for Clive.

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"We're going to rush the hijackers."
    -Jeremy Glick, aboard United Airlines flight 93, September 11, 2001

Steve - 09 Mar 2004 23:27 GMT
> Yup, he lies.

Absolutely.

> We bet that he's not a cop, that he doesn't dive.

He sounds like the sort of dickhead that thinks a uniform will make him what he
isn't, and the bustling metropolis of East Millinocket, Maine may have been desperate
and not averse to hiring liars. As for diving, I don't know where he found the time,
what with knocking somebody up by the time he was 19, pulling two hitches in the
miltary and training to become a commercial diver when he was 15.

http://com3.runboard.com/b20thmainevolunteerscompanyb.fmainchat.t25

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Steve

The above can be construed as personal opinion in the absence of a reasonable
belief that it was intended as a statement of fact.

If you want a reply to reach me, remove the SPAMTRAP from the address.

Jammer Six - 10 Mar 2004 00:03 GMT
> He sounds like the sort of dickhead that thinks a uniform will make
> him what he isn't, and the bustling metropolis of East Millinocket,
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>
> http://com3.runboard.com/b20thmainevolunteerscompanyb.fmainchat.t25

OH

MY

GOD...

Signature

"We're going to rush the hijackers."
    -Jeremy Glick, aboard United Airlines flight 93, September 11, 2001

Dennis \(Icarus\) - 12 Mar 2004 11:49 GMT
> LOL Ill give you a call tonight f.cker....or at least the registered
> owner of jammer@invalid.oz.net until then.

And they'll say - he pays us. You don't.

Dennis

> Mike

<snip>
Oliver Klozov - 12 Mar 2004 23:51 GMT
> > LOL Ill give you a call tonight f.cker....or at least the registered
> > owner of jammer@invalid.oz.net until then.
>
> And they'll say - he pays us. You don't.

No need for such trouble. Lyle's number is readily available on the
net. He runs a business called 'Phoenix Homes Inc' (free plug...you're
welcome Lyle). You can reach him at (206) 523 9500 or email him at
lyle@phoenixhomesinc.com. As you can see from his photo, he's kind of
dorky lookin' and definitely not DIR!

your welcome. Glad I could be of help.
Jammer Six - 13 Mar 2004 01:52 GMT
> your welcome. Glad I could be of help.

So, how come he hasn't called?

Signature

"We're going to rush the hijackers."
    -Jeremy Glick, aboard United Airlines flight 93, September 11, 2001

Oliver Klozov - 14 Mar 2004 00:51 GMT
> So, how come he hasn't called?

He's too busy. He's making plans to visit you in person...with an
AK-47. Is that DIR?
Scott - 14 Mar 2004 01:33 GMT
> > So, how come he hasn't called?
>
> He's too busy. He's making plans to visit you in person...with an
> AK-47. Is that DIR?

What a puss.

BARKEEP!

A round for the house!

Good thing for you no one takes anything you say with the smallest belief in
your "integrity".

This is called a death threat, and will be reported appropriately.
Oliver Klozov - 14 Mar 2004 08:03 GMT
> This is called a death threat,

No. Merely speculation.

>and will be reported appropriately.

You don't have any authority, knobgobbler. You have only 15 logged dives.
Dennis \(Icarus\) - 14 Mar 2004 15:31 GMT
> > This is called a death threat,
>
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>
> You don't have any authority, knobgobbler. You have only 15 logged dives.

Black? Is that you?

Dennis
Scott - 14 Mar 2004 15:57 GMT
> You don't have any authority, knobgobbler. You have only 15 logged dives.

You're funny for a coward.

Authority?

Look, its not our fault you are a latent homosexual, stuck in Calgary with
no one to date.

If you need a man to gobble your knob, perhaps you should try one of the
local biker bars.

I am sure you would get just what you are looking for.
chilly - 14 Mar 2004 21:27 GMT
> "Oliver Klozov" <jammer_stroke@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>(snip)
> Look, its not our fault you are a latent homosexual, stuck in Calgary with
> no one to date.
(snip)

Oliver is from Calgary!!!???  ahahhahaha  Now that's funny.
Scott - 14 Mar 2004 22:08 GMT
> > "Oliver Klozov" <jammer_stroke@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >(snip)
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Oliver is from Calgary!!!???  ahahhahaha  Now that's funny.

I thought so too...
chilly - 14 Mar 2004 22:15 GMT
> > > "Oliver Klozov" <jammer_stroke@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > >(snip)
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> I thought so too...

I wonder if I know him?  LOL, what if I've broken bread with him?
ahahahahahaha
Dennis \(Icarus\) - 14 Mar 2004 01:34 GMT
> > So, how come he hasn't called?
>
> He's too busy. He's making plans to visit you in person...with an
> AK-47. Is that DIR?

Or, perhaps wisely, decided to go back to the minor leagues (e.g Rodales)
for a bit more training.

Dennis
Jammer Six - 14 Mar 2004 04:02 GMT
> He's too busy. He's making plans to visit you in person...with an
> AK-47. Is that DIR?

Funny, I thought re-enactors carried toy guns.

Not to mention that plans never hurt anyone.

Signature

"We're going to rush the hijackers."
    -Jeremy Glick, aboard United Airlines flight 93, September 11, 2001

Grumman-581 - 14 Mar 2004 04:12 GMT
"Oliver Klozov"wrote ...
> He's too busy. He's making plans to visit you in person...with an
> AK-47. Is that DIR?

Don't think so... I suspect that muzzle loaders might be DIR, but definitely
not an automatic... I'm even questioning whether muzzle loaders would be
acceptable... Spears, perhaps... Rocks, definitely... <grin>
Brian Nadwidny - 14 Mar 2004 06:40 GMT
> He's too busy. He's making plans to visit you in person...with an
> AK-47. Is that DIR?

Gee, I haven't done a gun thread in ages.

So what would be considered a DIR gun? I'm partial to FN-FALs (Canadian
C1 and C2 versions) but that's because I carried those. I found them
simple and reliable, kinda like DIR. But I never had an AK although I
would love to try one one day. Never fired an M16 of any flavour. Just
wondering what the experts here would consider a DIR weapon. Shotgun
maybe? Keep it to long guns. We can do the shorties later.

Brian
Edmonton, Alberta
Grumman-581 - 14 Mar 2004 06:55 GMT
> So what would be considered a DIR gun? I'm partial to FN-FALs (Canadian
> C1 and C2 versions) but that's because I carried those. I found them
> simple and reliable, kinda like DIR. But I never had an AK although I
> would love to try one one day. Never fired an M16 of any flavour. Just
> wondering what the experts here would consider a DIR weapon. Shotgun
> maybe? Keep it to long guns. We can do the shorties later.

It's questionable if *any* firearm would be a acceptable DIR weapon... Too
many moving parts, I suspect... A highly suspect that a fully auto one would
not be DIR... Perhaps an exposed hammer single shot shotgun *might* be of
acceptable lack of complexity... I still suspect that only rocks would be a
DIR-approved weapon...
laurel - 14 Mar 2004 08:27 GMT
>>He's too busy. He's making plans to visit you in person...with an
>>AK-47. Is that DIR?
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> simple and reliable, kinda like DIR. But I never had an AK although I
> would love to try one one day. Never fired an M16 of any flavour.

You never used a C7? The problem I had with the C1 and C2 was their
weight made them a bit unweildy, but I suspect I thought that because we
got introduced to them AFTER having used the C7... but their action was
definately superior and they didn't jam too much either... and the
plastic grip of the C7 was just a bit too 'toy like'.

Just
> wondering what the experts here would consider a DIR weapon. Shotgun
> maybe? Keep it to long guns. We can do the shorties later.

<yields the floor to the experts>

L.
Brian Nadwidny - 14 Mar 2004 09:08 GMT
> You never used a C7?

Before my time.

>The problem I had with the C1 and C2 was their
> weight made them a bit unweildy,

The C2 was a bitch to carry around but at least it had auto mode. That
was fun. Most of the people that carried C2s were the big dumb types. I
must've made up for not being big by being extraordinarily dumb because
I usually found myself carrying either a C2 or the radio.

Brian
Edmonton, Alberta
laurel - 14 Mar 2004 23:07 GMT
>>You never used a C7?
>
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> must've made up for not being big by being extraordinarily dumb because
> I usually found myself carrying either a C2 or the radio.

Ghhhhaaaa. I never got to do anything fun at CAC... whilst the others
were having loads of fun in a 'live' firefight', I got to man the radio
from Midnight to Six am because some Lt. decided all of a sudden that
there were two many med-aids, so we got hauled out to different duties.
It was cool thought... quiet most of the time and I got some radio
experience, but in some ways it would have been cooler trampling through
the bush for a few weeks with my soldiers... some of whom had been
stupid enough in the past to injure themselves in curious and hillarious
ways.

L.
Genisys Davicom Inc. - 15 Mar 2004 06:14 GMT
>... some of whom had been
> stupid enough in the past to injure themselves in curious and hillarious
> ways.

A fellow ran smack dab into a tree at a full run, broke teeth, cut face, knock out, the whole nine yards.

He went to ground from sniper fire (simulated) he is just laying there, relaxing, enjoying the Sun, looks over
his shoulder and sees a beaver.

Now, for those who have never been up close and personal with a beaver, they can be huge, especially when they
are a few feet away, you are a city fellow who knows a beaver only from the nickel, and it was only that
morning that you were cautioned to avoid wild life.

Well, you know insult to injury was generously applied by his buddies.

Thats what buddies are for.

David
Edmonton, Alberta
laurel - 15 Mar 2004 06:47 GMT
>>... some of whom had been
>>stupid enough in the past to injure themselves in curious and hillarious
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>
> Thats what buddies are for.

Heh. That reminds me of my own personal favourite...

A PFC falls into a swamp area up to his waist at Meaford during routine
exercises in Feb. I tell him to get back to the barracks and get dried
off. He ignores this and continues on... an hour and a half later he
comes up to me and says he has to go to the clinic. I ask him what for
and he won't tell me... says he's embaressed. So instead of arguing, I
send Mr. Brilliant to the clinic.

I find out later what happened, not from him or the Doc, but on the bus
ride home: because Mr. Brilliant wouldn't tell the med-aid (who is bound
to keep all medical issues confidential) what was wrong, but he did tell
a few of his buddies: who made up a song about it to entertain us all on
the ride home.

Naturally he was so cold that Mr. Brilliant's willie decided to
hibernate, which freeked him out. He was treated with a hot water bottle :-)

L.

> David
> Edmonton, Alberta
Genisys Davicom Inc. - 15 Mar 2004 05:55 GMT
> The C2 was a bitch to carry around but at least it had auto mode. That
> was fun. Most of the people that carried C2s were the big dumb types. I
> must've made up for not being big by being extraordinarily dumb because
> I usually found myself carrying either a C2 or the radio.

Well, I am back from being away.

The C2 guy was the first on the wire, barbed or catalina.
The C2 guy had a chest pack that held (IIRC, 5 mags. of 30 rounds each) which protected him as he threw
himself on the wire roll. The rest of the squad would run over the the roll by placing a foot on the back of
the C2 guy and jumping clear.

The last guy in the squad would say something like, cut, hup, or up and the C2 guy would bend one leg at the
knee and the last guy over would hook his rifle sling on the prone mans foot and pull him over and free of the
roll.

We used to listen to the Matinee movie played on T.V. with our C10 radios.

David
Edmonton, Alberta
Scott - 14 Mar 2004 15:46 GMT
> > He's too busy. He's making plans to visit you in person...with an
> > AK-47. Is that DIR?
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> wondering what the experts here would consider a DIR weapon. Shotgun
> maybe? Keep it to long guns. We can do the shorties later.

Depends upon the mission parameters.

FN-FAL is a damn fine rifle, but the area we are talking about is rather
closed in, with lots of neighbors.

In this scenario, for some limp-wristed chessedick threating to visit with
an AK47, an MK870 12 gage
loaded with Federal 3" 4 dram equivalent 000 buckshot would be fine.

Besides, I have a good idea the alleged AK47 perp would be well venitlated
with 210 grain ball faster than
he could snap the safety of the AK.
Crownfield - 15 Mar 2004 03:46 GMT
> > > He's too busy. He's making plans to visit you in person...with an
> > > AK-47. Is that DIR?
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> with 210 grain ball faster than
> he could snap the safety of the AK.

does anyone who knows what he is talking about choose an ak47?
Oliver Klozov - 15 Mar 2004 02:31 GMT
> So what would be considered a DIR gun? I'm partial to FN-FALs (Canadian
> C1 and C2 versions)

Is the C2 the FALO heavy barrel (foregrips fold down as bipod)?
Similar idea to the M1918A2 BAR: Fixed heavy barrel squad automatic.
I'm rather partial to those (BARs). Owned a couple back in the early
nineties. Probably as un-DIR as they come.

> but that's because I carried those. I found them
> simple and reliable, kinda like DIR. But I never had an AK although I
> would love to try one one day.

Fun to play with. Simple and reliable, but don't expect much better
than 4-5 MOA accuracy. Long stroke (haha) gas action and short sight
radius make it inherently inaccurate.

>Never fired an M16 of any flavour.

Also kinda fun, but I hate a gun that sh.ts where it eats.

> Just
> wondering what the experts here would consider a DIR weapon. Shotgun
> maybe? Keep it to long guns. We can do the shorties later.

Hmmm. H&K G3. No gas system. Simple and reliable. No optics (unless
you want them). A shorty may be more fitting, especially an  open bolt
SMG (take your pick). Super reliable and simple. Can be stripped and
reassembled quickly. Few moving parts.
chilly - 15 Mar 2004 02:46 GMT
> Hmmm. H&K G3. No gas system. Simple and reliable. No optics (unless
> you want them). A shorty may be more fitting, especially an  open bolt
> SMG (take your pick). Super reliable and simple. Can be stripped and
> reassembled quickly. Few moving parts.

Nope, I'm pretty sure I don't know this guy.
Brian Nadwidny - 15 Mar 2004 05:54 GMT
> Is the C2 the FALO heavy barrel (foregrips fold down as bipod)?
> Similar idea to the M1918A2 BAR: Fixed heavy barrel squad automatic.

Sounds like it.

Brian
Edmonton, Alberta
Dennis \(Icarus\) - 13 Mar 2004 05:28 GMT
> > > LOL Ill give you a call tonight f.cker....or at least the registered
> > > owner of jammer@invalid.oz.net until then.
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> lyle@phoenixhomesinc.com. As you can see from his photo, he's kind of
> dorky lookin' and definitely not DIR!

I'm sure that he's quite relieved to know that you find his apperarance
unappealing. The TOTDB does not need to worry. (Of course, she wouldn't,
anyway).

Incorrect. It clearly shows he's DIR. From
http://www.dirquest.com/about_dir.shtml
"The DIR system focuses on the concept of minimalism. Equipment that does
not enrich the dive is considered a liability and should be left at home."
The photo clearly shows him working a working on a roof. Since this is the
case, the dive gear has been left at home.

Only a stroke (or dropped fire diver) would have scuba gear on a roof.

You have to be able to clearly understand the thousand words you get from a
photo.

> your welcome. Glad I could be of help.

Well, you weren't, but nice try though.

Dennis
Oliver Klozov - 14 Mar 2004 00:24 GMT
> The photo clearly shows him working a working on a roof.

Clearly.

> You have to be able to clearly understand the thousand words you get from a
> photo.

Like you?
Dennis \(Icarus\) - 14 Mar 2004 01:30 GMT
> > The photo clearly shows him working a working on a roof.
>
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>
> Like you?

Yes.

Dennis
Randy F. Milak - 09 Mar 2004 22:18 GMT
> Hey no prob....Im used to dealing with a bunch of dumb f.ckers...I work
> as a police officer here in Maine. Hmm let me see. I was certified back
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> the late 80's I decided to become a police officer and I also work on a
> state search and rescue dive team.

    Blah, blah, blah... nice resume.  You applying for a job?  Maybe
you're trying to impress someone with that feeble pissing contest?  The latter
would be my humble guess.  Yet I somehow doubt you could lead flies to a hog lot.
Hmmm. I've got 5 bucks says jammer knows more about diving than you?  By a freaken
MILE...  Any takers?

> I apologize for searching out a place where fellow divers gather to
> let them know about a site that I found interesting.

    Albeit, if you were to put a lens in each one of jammer's ears',
you'd probably have a telescope, yet he's got your number right on the money,
that's for damn sure.  Pisses you off doesn't it?

> By all means it wont happen again.

    That's your 3rd lie.
   
> Like I said earlier, I am used to dealing with ignorant f.cks like
> Jammer Six and the other piece of sh.t that originally answered me.

    Lie number 4.

> I dont take offense to that type of person...

    Lie number 5.

> god forbid you ever come through my jurisdiction with that attitude.

    Lie number 6, on three counts.  Maybe if you repent now, God might
still use you for miracle practice?

> But anyway take care and for all of the non-a.sholes on
> this site....dive safe
> Mike Davis

    Don't worry Mike, what with the way you dive, I'm sure you don't
have to worry about that high blood pressure and short fuse you have
there.  By the way, welcome to rec.scuba and have you stopped beating your wife
yet?


> Jammer Six wrote: ...
> > You don't know anything about diving, or you wouldn't be interested in
> > his writing.
> >
> > So have a seat, and shut the f.ck up, OK?

    You're killen me!  I dunno how you flush 'em out jammer, but
I bow to your cleverness!

--
Randy F. Milak
~One doughnut and a wife beating short of being a Maine cop!~
Jammer Six - 09 Mar 2004 23:10 GMT
>  You're killen me!  I dunno how you flush 'em out jammer, but I bow
> to your cleverness!

When rec.scuba unites, it's better to be one of us.

The alternative is, well, pathetic.

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Steve - 09 Mar 2004 23:05 GMT
> Hey no prob....Im used to dealing with a bunch of dumb f.ckers...I work
> as a police officer here in Maine.

I've had stupid coworkers, too, so I can sympathize.

>  Over the years I have been
> licensed in advanced open diver, rescue diver, cavern diver, deep diver,
> ice diver, night diver and master diver. About 5 years back I was
> licensed as a master instructor. I have my paramedic license

I bet you don't even know why this just makes you sound even more ignorant.

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Al Wells - 09 Mar 2004 19:50 GMT
> You
> know what he does with his book royalties? He searches for lost
> shipwrecks, airplanes etc... If you are familiar with Dr. Cussler

We saw what he did in SC - an absolute CF.
John Francis CID - 09 Mar 2004 20:25 GMT
>Have you all heard of Clive Cussler? He is my favorite author. He has
>written 20+ best-selling novels and has millions of fans worldwide. You
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>Cheers
>Mike Davis

Cussler's okay for dive related escapist fiction. I've read all his
books at least once. But I actually prefer any of the following for
real dive adventure fiction.

Robert Louis Stevenson III
David Poyer
John McKenna

My all time favourite is James Jones "Go To The Widowmaker"

JF

"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent their government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them."
- Thomas Jefferson (1743 - 1826)
John Francis CID - 09 Mar 2004 20:31 GMT
>Robert Louis Stevenson III
>David Poyer
>John McKenna
>
>My all time favourite is James Jones "Go To The Widowmaker"

That should be John McKinna

JF

"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent their government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them."
- Thomas Jefferson (1743 - 1826)
dazed and confuzed - 09 Mar 2004 23:38 GMT
> Have you all heard of Clive Cussler? He is my favorite author. He has
> written 20+ best-selling novels and has millions of fans worldwide. You
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> Cheers
> Mike Davis

You really should expand the scope of your reading.

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de Valois - 10 Mar 2004 15:46 GMT
Michael Davis left this mess on Tue, 09 Mar 2004 19:24:38 GMT for The Way to
clean up:

>Have you all heard of Clive Cussler? He is my favorite author. He has
>written 20+ best-selling novels and has millions of fans worldwide. You
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>Please take a moment to check this out...trust me, you will not be
>sorry.  I look forward to seeing you there.

Ohgod, please...this guy couldn't write his way out of a paper bag! Some of his
stories are intriguing, but I always wonder how a real writer would have made
them better whenever I read them.

No character development, lame plot twists and sometimes the solutions sound
more like he wrote most of the book in one night, fell asleep drunk and then had
to invent sh.t to finish the story.

Someone get this spammer outta here, please?

Tao te Carl
"It takes a village to have an idiot." - Carl (c) 2003

(Kudos to Cap'n Jim Wyatt for this link) BEFORE you ask a dumb-a.s question
here...http://www.speakeasy.org/~neilco/bart.gif
chilly - 10 Mar 2004 19:53 GMT
> Michael Davis left this mess on Tue, 09 Mar 2004 19:24:38 GMT for The Way to
> clean up:
>
> Someone get this spammer outta here, please?

Where have you been?  Consider it done.
 
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