I've been diving in Key Largo several times, and have these complaints:
1) location: all the operations seem to go to the same place, were we look
at dead coral in very shallow water. Is there any operation that will take
us to somethign different, better, deeper? (myself and my buddy are
advanced certified)
2) price: it seems to be one of the most expensive places i have dove - is
there a lower-cost operator that anyone would recomend? we have all our own
gear.
Planning this trip for a few weeks from now, so any recomendations will be
greatly appreciated!
thanks - dan
mike gray, CID - 02 Mar 2004 15:22 GMT
> I've been diving in Key Largo several times, and have these complaints:
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> thanks - dan
Key Largo is a tourist-driven location. There are some fine dive sites
which smaller local operators will visit on request, but the major
operators stick with the shallow, over-dived sites for obvious reasons.
Ya have to seek out those few operations that are geared to more
experienced divers and will take you to out-of-the-way sites, and it is
best to do that before ya get down there.
Or go to Boynton.
Nitespark - 02 Mar 2004 15:23 GMT
> I've been diving in Key Largo several times, and have these complaints:
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> thanks - dan
I was there a couple of weeks ago and dove with "Ocean Divers" on the
dive boat "Santana". I was impressed with their operation and the boat.
While we dove two relatively shallow reefs, that was what they had on
the charter for that day. They did have a trip planned to the Speigel
Grove the next day, but I was planning on returning.
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Popeye NCAT3 - 03 Mar 2004 00:30 GMT
>From: "dan mcgraw" spam@onlysleeping.org
>Date: 3/2/04 10:08 AM Eastern Standard Time
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>thanks - dan
http://www.pennekamp.com/sw/
E-mail these guys, ask for Ric.
I dove with them last year and got exemplary service.
Popeye
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will become as God is." -Dr. Hannibal Lector.
Buff5200 - 03 Mar 2004 04:04 GMT
>I've been diving in Key Largo several times, and have these complaints:
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>advanced certified)
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I think the best diving in the Keys is in the middle keys, try Marathon
or Islamarada.
And the Keys are shallow water. That's why they have so many shipwrecks.
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Lee Bell - 03 Mar 2004 14:26 GMT
> I think the best diving in the Keys is in the middle keys, try Marathon
> or Islamarada. And the Keys are shallow water. That's why they have so
many shipwrecks.
I think the operators in the middle and lower keys are more likely to take
their customers to the better sites. They have to do something to draw them
from the more convenient northern islands. There are some great sites
between Key Largo and Islamorada and a lot of miles of reef between
Islamorada and Marathon. You just have to have the resources to find them,
whether that's a boat or your own or a cooperative dive operator.
The Keys have dives at all depths, from so shallow that even snorkeling is
hard, to way beyond what even the most technical of divers consider
reasonable.
Lee
Robert - 05 Mar 2004 02:00 GMT
Just returned from there.Key largo.....................I was very
dissapointed
Shallow crappy diving. I was unfortunate to be diving with
inexperienced pucking fools. Visibility sucked, the water was 73
degrees (cold) and nothing worth or really extraordinary.
After seeing my "buddy" pucking his breakfast thru his regulator, my
mind and stomach never recovered fully.
Both snorkeler's on the boat never touched the water because they were
pucking their hearts out.
And believe me , the sea condition was almost flat.
Go to the Caribbean if you can. Better visibility, real coral reefs
and warmer water.
>I've been diving in Key Largo several times, and have these complaints:
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>thanks - dan
Lee Bell - 05 Mar 2004 05:08 GMT
> Just returned from there.Key largo.....................I was very
> dissapointed
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> Both snorkeler's on the boat never touched the water because they were
> pucking their hearts out.
Any diver that gets on a boat with snorkelers gets what he/she deserves.
Lee
mike gray - 05 Mar 2004 14:16 GMT
>> Just returned from there.Key largo.....................I was very
>> dissapointed
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> Lee
Amen!
Ed - 06 Mar 2004 18:49 GMT
Being a S Florida local... I agree... GO TO THE CARIBBEAN......
But... in case you are interested.... When the winds and seas kick up in
Key Largo, many operators will go to Hens and chickens because it is
inside the reef line. Yes there is nothing to see but dead coral, poor
vis, no real fish. Next time, do some research, ask the charter boat
where they are going (Site, depth, distance) and if it is to rough to go
deep... can you get your money back, get a ticket for another day. Most
reputable boats will allow that... SOME will tell you no... if we go...
you pay (no matter how bad the alternate spots are).
I would also agree with Lee... snorkelers are not a good sign on the
boat unless their name is Martin Stepanick or they are wearing 4' long
fins. (Martin is attempting to break some crazy record with a
snorkel...>>200')
Enjoy St Thomas!!!!
>>> Just returned from there.Key largo.....................I was very
>>> dissapointed
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> Amen!
David Gintz \(formerly newdiver2@aol.com\) - 06 Mar 2004 19:35 GMT
> Any diver that gets on a boat with snorkelers gets what he/she deserves.
Okay. Not trying to start (or continue) a flame-war but why is the presence
of snorkelers a problem? Is it just because it implies no depth on the dive?
I'm asking this question seriously (this time!).
- David
mike gray - 06 Mar 2004 22:12 GMT
David Gintz (formerly newdiver2@aol.com) wrote:
>> Any diver that gets on a boat with snorkelers gets what he/she deserves.
>
> Okay. Not trying to start (or continue) a flame-war but why is the presence
> of snorkelers a problem? Is it just because it implies no depth on the dive?
>
> I'm asking this question seriously (this time!).
Sorta like showing up at a snowshoe race that includes cross country skiers.
David Gintz \(formerly newdiver2@aol.com\) - 06 Mar 2004 23:33 GMT
> Sorta like showing up at a snowshoe race that includes cross country skiers.
I don't get it Mike. (And I both, snowshoe and cross-country ski!)
(Although I'm looking forward to end of May when I hope to be in Boynton to
dive with you folks again.)
- David
Dan Bracuk, CTHD - 08 Mar 2004 23:08 GMT
"David Gintz \(formerly newdiver2@aol.com\)"
<d_gintzREMOVEALLUNDERSCORES@adel_ph_iaDOT_net> pounded away at his
keyboard resulting in:
:Okay. Not trying to start (or continue) a flame-war but why is the presence
:of snorkelers a problem? Is it just because it implies no depth on the dive?
Going very deep is important to some people. I am not one of them.
The only problem I ever had from diving with snorkellers was in
Cozumel. This was at a site where the snorkellers tended to feed the
fish, which caused feeding frenzies, and I ended up getting bit by a
fish.
Mind you, I could have stayed further away from the snorkellers, but I
didn't.
Dan Bracuk
If at first you don't succeed, you run the risk of failure.
The Best of rec.scuba http://www.pathcom.com/~bracuk/RecScuba/
Lee Bell - 09 Mar 2004 04:49 GMT
>> Okay. Not trying to start (or continue) a flame-war but why is the
>> presence of snorkelers a problem? Is it just because it implies no
>> depth on the dive?
It implies sites with no depth. It implies a site that is suitable for
snorkelers which, in my personal opinion, is unlikely to be the best place
to spend a tank of gas.
> Going very deep is important to some people. I am not one of them.
Not relevant unless you consider roughly 30 feet, about as deep as the Keys
snorkeling sites are, to be the measure of very deep.
Lee
Robert - 07 Mar 2004 18:45 GMT
I see all the "geniuses" here have their own "opinions".
I was dissapointed on Key Largo diving. Continued to be. And won't
reference these are to any "real" diver.
I will keep my diving to the Caribbean and other warm water spots.
I have dived out here in Rockport, MA........50 degree waters.
I prefer the Caribbean diving anytime.
Diving with cold water and no visibility is pointless. And that is not
recreational diving, just bull crap.
I love to "observe" the coral reef life, whatever is left at this
point, before it all die in 50 years.........................
If going to dive in any kind of cold water I prefer looking at
pelagians of some sort big fish.
It is my preference, does not have to be for you, or any of the "smart
a.ses" here that think they know everything and can't fart without
shiting their pants.
BYe
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>thanks - dan
Lee Bell - 08 Mar 2004 00:10 GMT
> I see all the "geniuses" here have their own "opinions".
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> a.ses" here that think they know everything and can't fart without
> shiting their pants.
How amusing. Somebody critical of all the geniuses that can't put a dozen
sentences together correctly.