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Scuba Forum / General / March 2004Citizen analog dive watches ok ?
Looking at some citizen dive watches, made the mistake of buying digital the first time and the so called "jumbo" digits were not so jumbo after all. I do need some correction close up and will eventually but one of those masks with built in correction or the stick on but for the time being I'm gonna go with an analog dive watch, with as big a numbers as i can find and preferably an indicator at 0 minutes on the bezel to use as a general reference. Citizen has one for around 158.00, i'm reluctant to go mail order because sometimes what you get is not always what you expected,as in my "jumbo" digits on my digital.Are the citizen dive watches in general pretty decent ? I dont wear a rolex in everyday life and dont want to spend hundreds on a dive watch.....any suggestions or opinions appreciated. Kevin Falconer Fort Myers, FL >Are the citizen dive watches in general pretty decent ? One of my dive buddies wears a Citizen analog that he's had as long as I've known him. So far, so good. I have two Citizen HyperAqualand watches and both of them are doing quite well also. The only problems I've had with Citizen dive watches are: 1. The lighting system on my HyperAqualand watches is nearly useless, particularly for somebody who, like you, doesn't see as clearly close up as I once did. Since most dive watches I've had didn't have a light at all, I don't find this a major issue. 2. The ascent alarm on my Citizen HyperAqualand watches are way, way to sensitive. Moving my arm from my waist to my head sets it off, or did until I had it disabled. I'm tone deaf in high frequencies. I can't hear the Citizen alarm under the best of conditions, with it directly against my ear. Everybody else, including other divers, hears it just fine. When my first Citizen went in for battery replacement, I had all alarms disabled. I'll do the same when watch number 2 goes in. Obviously, these are not earth shaking problems. My watches, at about $250 street price, are worth it to me because of the extra features. The depth guage and, in particular, the downloadable record of each dive, are well worth the price to me. The analog watches are more limited in their features and may not be worth the price to you. FWIW, I've also used Seiko watches with considerable success. The Sports 100 and 140 lines, while no sold as dive watches, have all the basic features and work quite well. Lee > on a dive watch.....any suggestions or opinions appreciated. Casio G-Shock, $50 Tells time underwater as good as any Rolex and if someone rips your arm off (which happens to divers occasionally), it doesn't break the bank to buy a new one. "Greg Mossman" <mossman@qnet.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in: :Tells time underwater as good as any Rolex and if someone rips your arm off :(which happens to divers occasionally), it doesn't break the bank to buy a :new one. How much does a good arm cost these days? Is that with or without a watch? Dan Bracuk If at first you don't succeed, you run the risk of failure. The Best of rec.scuba http://www.pathcom.com/~bracuk/RecScuba/ > "Greg Mossman" <mossman@qnet.com> pounded away at his keyboard > resulting in: [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > How much does a good arm cost these days? Is that with or without a > watch? Next time someone tells you it costs an arm and a leg, subtract out the cost of the leg. Kevin, I dive with the Citzen Aqualand Eco Drive, all analog. It's nice as a timing device, as the bezel turns in one direction. The markers on the face are bigger than normal. There's a bright orange hand, that serves as the depth guage. The depth markers are small. Citizen makes it clear that this depth guage may not be accurate, and is not a substitute for a real one. Larry >Looking at some citizen dive watches, made the mistake of buying >digital [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > >Kevin Falconer Fort Myers, FL I do need some correction close up and will eventually but one of > those > masks with built in correction or the stick on but for the time being Lasik... and then use whatever looks good on your arm :) > I do need some correction close up and will eventually but one of > >>those >>masks with built in correction or the stick on but for the time being > > Lasik... and then use whatever looks good on your arm :) Lasik won't cure that - in fact enhances the fact that you need to wear reading glasses! > Lasik won't cure that - in fact enhances the fact that you need to wear > reading glasses! Not when you are mf2's age. >>Lasik won't cure that - in fact enhances the fact that you need to wear >>reading glasses! > > Not when you are mf2's age. Age would not make any difference, lasik fixes the irregularities of the cornea and its ability to focus on the retina. Reading glasses fixes the problem with the lens' ability to contract and expand to focus on small and close reading > >>Lasik won't cure that - in fact enhances the fact that you need to wear > >>reading glasses! [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > fixes the problem with the lens' ability to contract and expand to focus > on small and close reading Age does make the difference Joe. The reason we need reading glasses as we age is because the lens begins to harden. If we are short-sighted, then the misshape of the cornea can actually be to our advantage as to closeup work. However, when you are young, the lenses have not begun to harden and so until you reach a certain age, it will not be a problem for you. >>>> Lasik won't cure that - in fact enhances the fact that you need to >>>> wear reading glasses! [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > have not begun to harden and so until you reach a certain age, it > will not be a problem for you. Only if you are short sighted. For us long sighted folks, it just keeps getting worse. I pick up my new, progressive lens glasses this Friday. Lee > >> Age would not make any difference, lasik fixes the irregularities of > >> the cornea and its ability to focus on the retina. Reading glasses [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Only if you are short sighted. Yes, as I said being short-sighted helps a bit for a while (prior to lasik). However, without lasik, as they age, a person will likely still need a progressive (graduating bifocal correction) in their eye glasses and/or contact lenses correcting for the near-sightedness. > For us long sighted folks, it just keeps > getting worse. I pick up my new, progressive lens glasses this Friday. Have you had Lasik, Lee? In any event, far-sighted or near-sighted, the lens harden with age. In a young person, none of that would have started to happen yet. >>>> Age would not make any difference, lasik fixes the irregularities >>>> of the cornea and its ability to focus on the retina. Reading [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > the lens harden with age. In a young person, none of that would have > started to happen yet. No, I've just gotten so far sighted that I can't read a damned thing up close. Worse, my distance vision isn't all it once was either. It's time for full time glasses. Now all I have to do is figure out how to avoid dropping them overboard. The beautiful thing about reading glasses from the dollar store is that you can buy a lot of them for the price of only one pair of real glasses. Lee > Now all I have to do is figure out how to avoid > dropping them overboard. Use the cable-type ear pieces that wrap around the back of the ear... They take a little getting used to though... >>Now all I have to do is figure out how to avoid >>dropping them overboard. > > Use the cable-type ear pieces that wrap around the back of the ear... They > take a little getting used to though... Use the removable neck loops. If the wind blows them off, it usually catches them...I have one with a foam float that hangs behind my neck just for boating.  Signature"There ain't no such thing as a free lunch" > > Now all I have to do is figure out how to avoid > > dropping them overboard. > > Use the cable-type ear pieces that wrap around the back of the ear... They > take a little getting used to though... That's probaby what I will do. I've used them on previous sun glasses, but they aren't something most shops keep in stock. Since, for the first time, these are going to be all the time glasses, I have to wonder how comfortable they'll be on a continuous basis. We'll see. Lee > That's probaby what I will do. I've used them on previous sun glasses, but > they aren't something most shops keep in stock. Since, for the first time, > these are going to be all the time glasses, I have to wonder how comfortable > they'll be on a continuous basis. We'll see. Eventually, you get used to them... I think that you start to develop small calluses behind the ears and thus they quit being as irritating... It tends to be rather difficult for me to be able to find a set of frames in an acceptable style / size and have that same set of frames also be available with cable temples that I don't bother looking for them anymore... I preferred them though... > No, I've just gotten so far sighted that I can't read a damned thing up > close. Worse, my distance vision isn't all it once was either. It's time > for full time glasses. Now all I have to do is figure out how to avoid > dropping them overboard. Lee, they're doing a surgery now that corrects your vision in one eye to enable you to see close up without glasses, this does however slightly degrade your vision at distance because now you've got one eye working good up close and only one working well at distance, it's a trade off. I'm gonna wait a bit and find out more about it. They have one procedure that is non invasive, it shrinks something in the cornea to refocus the one eye rather then actually shaving a layer from the lens of the eye which is what they do in lasik. > > No, I've just gotten so far sighted that I can't read a damned thing up > > close. Worse, my distance vision isn't all it once was either. It's time [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > gonna > wait a bit and find out more about it. Good plan. >They have one procedure that is > non > invasive, it shrinks something in the cornea to refocus the one eye > rather then actually shaving a layer from the lens of the eye which is > what they do in > lasik. They don't shave anything off the lens when doing lasik. They "shave" off or reshape the cornea. [Lee wrote]: > > No, I've just gotten so far sighted that I can't read a damned thing up > > close. Worse, my distance vision isn't all it once was either. It's time [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > eye working good up close and only one working well at distance, > it's a trade off. I'm gonna wait a bit and find out more about it. They've been doing this "one near, one far" bit with contact lenses for over 20 years to try to address Presbyopia. It works fine for some patients, but for some, it sucks really bad. As such, before I'd have my eyes Lasik'ed in this fashion, I'd test to make sure that I'm not one of the "bad" candidates. i'd ask my MD about using Contacts in this fashion to correct for Presbyopia, invest the bucks for a pair of contact lenses and try it for 6-12 months. If that goes well, you could then decide if the risk of making it permanent via Lasik is acceptable or not. This also gives the eyes more time to stabilize, if they are in a period of change...afterall, its not a good investment if your eyes are going to be a half cylinder different in 9-18 months. > They have one procedure that is non-invasive, it shrinks something > in the cornea to refocus the one eye rather then actually shaving > a layer from the lens of the eye which is what they do in lasik. Yes, overnight-worn "training" contacts still exist. But they don't do much for Presbyopia, except potentially keep you just in reading glasses instead of bifocals. -hh > They've been doing this "one near, one far" bit with contact lenses for > over 20 years to try to address Presbyopia. Some sort of optical condition that only affects members of a particular Protestant sect? > > They've been doing this "one near, one far" bit with contact lenses for > > over 20 years to try to address Presbyopia. > > Some sort of optical condition that only affects members of a particular > Protestant sect? It's all about aging. >>>>Lasik won't cure that - in fact enhances the fact that you need to wear >>>>reading glasses! [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > However, when you are young, the lenses have not begun to harden and so > until you reach a certain age, it will not be a problem for you. exactly what I said. I thought you said that lasik wound help his reading glasses problem at his age, what I said was lasik would not help him but in fact enhance the effects where reading glasses would be needed. It isn't the age but the lack of the ability of the lens to expand and contract as it once did - and yes that could (probably) be age-related.. > Lasik... and then use whatever looks good on your arm :) yeah, i've thought about this also, not sure I want anyone lazering on an otherwise pretty good set of eyes ! |
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