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Scuba Forum / Scuba Equipment / November 2003New DUI ZIP seals
Hello, Has anyone had any experience with the new DUI Zip seals. I was just wondering if it's worth getting my suit updated with the new seals. Sounds like a great idea while on a boat trip or out in the field for extended periods of time. >Hello, > > Has anyone had any experience with the new DUI Zip seals. I was just >wondering if it's worth getting my suit updated with the new seals. Sounds >like a great idea while on a boat trip or out in the field for extended >periods of time. A few guys around here look at them at Dema, didn't like them. But hey, they dive so deep it's beyond rec tech. So a serious flooded suit means they're not coming back. I spend a lot of time in my dry suit (surface) not by chioce. They sound interesting. If you go for it, post the results. T > Has anyone had any experience with the new DUI Zip seals. I was just >wondering if it's worth getting my suit updated with the new seals. Sounds >like a great idea while on a boat trip or out in the field for extended >periods of time. They are simply perfect for rental applications. As far as Joe Diver, it's a tradeoff. I'm not crazy about the added failure point, but it would be nice to know that I would never have to send my suit in for seal replacement again. Of course, the installation price on an existing suit would cover a couple of seal jobs, and replacement seals aren't free, so realistically, it would take at least 10 years to break even. Cost would not be the reason... just the convenience of not being without the suit for a couple of weeks. --- Rich http://richlockyer.tripod.com/ > Of course, the installation price on an existing suit would cover a > couple of seal jobs, and replacement seals aren't free, so > realistically, it would take at least 10 years to break even. Cost > would not be the reason... just the convenience of not being without > the suit for a couple of weeks. I was thinking it would be nice to be able to interchage between dry gloves and regular seals. I don't wear gloves now when I dive but I am thinking when I hit PNW that I may change my tune on that one. Especially when I start doing the longer deeper dives. Kimber Shucks, the water in the PNW is warmer than the air right now so it is very comfortable. . . . OK so gloves are real nice up here. Brian > Shucks, the water in the PNW is warmer than the air right now so it is very > comfortable. . . . OK so gloves are real nice up here. (-: Don't discourage me from making this move! I am having to mentally prepare myself for this cold thing. <headed back to http://www.mossmanscubaventures.com/ to watch the videos to remind myself how awesome the diving is there so I can forget that it is so cold> Kimber The diving is great and you won't regret the move. It isn't too bad as long as you have a suit on. ;-) Brian > The diving is great and you won't regret the move. It isn't too bad as long > as you have a suit on. ;-) I am sure I won't regret the move. I just keep hearing that the first year there is the hardest. At least I am starting out in the winter -- get the hard season over first off! (-; Kimber Well, winter is the coldest season. Summer brings the visibility issue ;-) and gloves just don't help that a bit. Brian >I am sure I won't regret the move. I just keep hearing that the first year >there is the hardest. At least I am starting out in the winter -- get the >hard season over first off! (-; The nicest thing is that you don't cook your a.s in the suit before you get into the water. --- Rich http://richlockyer.tripod.com/ > I was thinking it would be nice to be able to interchage between dry gloves > and regular seals. I don't wear gloves now when I dive but I am thinking > when I hit PNW that I may change my tune on that one. Of that you can be sure. Brian Edmonton, Alberta www.mossmanscubaventures.com > > I was thinking it would be nice to be able to interchage between dry gloves > > and regular seals. I don't wear gloves now when I dive but I am thinking > > when I hit PNW that I may change my tune on that one. > > Of that you can be sure. Well, I used to do long deep dives in San Diego with no gloves. But I think your waters up there are even colder. I hate weairng gloves and quit using them not long after I started diving. Question - do dry gloves feel odd? Does it take awhile to get used to them? Kimber > them not long after I started diving. Question - do dry gloves feel odd? > Does it take awhile to get used to them? No. No. "Abdul RUSFAWI (De-Ice Diver)" > > them not long after I started diving. Question - do dry gloves feel odd? > > Does it take awhile to get used to them? > > No. No. Thanks for that insightful post -- whoever you are. Kimber > "Abdul RUSFAWI (De-Ice Diver)" > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Kimber You're welcome. Man of few words often has little to say - but is usually concise. >"Abdul RUSFAWI (De-Ice Diver)" > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >Kimber Down side is if they flood (get cut) you better keep the cut low. The up side is you can change your wrest seals on the fly. But I still like wet gloves better than dry gloves flooding my suit. There is always three finger mitts. Pain in the a.s to put on and a pain in the a.s, until you get down 10 ft or so. I must admit dry gloves are easier to put on though. For sport dives I would use them or dives that hypothermia might not be a problem if you flood. Which I have played with twice in the past two years. One being a failed zipper and the other more recent leaks under the arm on both sides. All this from a suit less than 3 seasons old. Good wet gloves gets my vote. Then three finger. Lastly the dry glove. T > Good wet gloves gets my vote. > Then three finger. > Lastly the dry glove. I see your point I suppose, but I hate wearing ANY gloves as is. I cannot see myself ever being able to use those horrorific three finger gloves. UGH! I hate not having the feeling and use of my fingers. Kimber > > Good wet gloves gets my vote. > > Then three finger. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Kimber The thin latex gloves without lining are akin to wearing rubber gloves to do the dishes. Add a thin lining for warmth and lose a bit of feeling. Unless you plan to destroy the gloves while diving, the dry-glove is far superior in comfort and convenience. If you do plan to destroy the gloves, don't install a bypass for the wrist seal and only your hand will get wet. With dry-gloves you have total use of your fingers and much of the feeling. Thicker rubber and/or linings decrease feeling but you still have use of your fingers. Kimber left this mess on Tue, 25 Nov 2003 22:01:58 -0500 for The Way to clean up: >I see your point I suppose, but I hate wearing ANY gloves as is. I cannot >see myself ever being able to use those horrorific three finger gloves. >UGH! I hate not having the feeling and use of my fingers. I don't know...sometimes comfortably numb can be fun ;) Tao te Carl "It takes a village to have an idiot." - Carl (c) 2003 (Kudos to Cap'n Jim Wyatt for this link) BEFORE you ask a dumb-a.s question here...http://www.speakeasy.org/~neilco/bart.gif > Kimber left this mess on Tue, 25 Nov 2003 22:01:58 -0500 for The Way to clean > up: [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > I don't know...sometimes comfortably numb can be fun ;) that depends on what you're doing and whether you want to last a while or finish early. ;) rhys >> I don't know...sometimes comfortably numb can be fun ;) > >that depends on what you're doing and whether you want to last a while or >finish early. >;) If your fingers are numb, it feels like somebody else is doing it. --- Rich http://richlockyer.tripod.com/ rnf2 left this mess on Thu, 27 Nov 2003 13:18:33 +1300 for The Way to clean up: >> Kimber left this mess on Tue, 25 Nov 2003 22:01:58 -0500 for The Way to >clean [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >finish early. >;) I wouldn't be numb if I didn't want it to last. And last. And last. And last. And... Tao te Carl "It takes a village to have an idiot." - Carl (c) 2003 (Kudos to Cap'n Jim Wyatt for this link) BEFORE you ask a dumb-a.s question here...http://www.speakeasy.org/~neilco/bart.gif > > Good wet gloves gets my vote. > > Then three finger. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Kimber How about latex surgical gloves and a rubber band? > Well, I used to do long deep dives in San Diego with no gloves. But I think > your waters up there are even colder. I've never dove San Diego but I would think that our waters are colder. Usually between 42 and 50. I can't remember it being above that. >I hate weairng gloves and quit using > them not long after I started diving. Question - do dry gloves feel odd? No. > Does it take awhile to get used to them? About 2 seconds. Brian Edmonton, Alberta www.mossmanscubaventures.com > I've never dove San Diego but I would think that our waters are colder. > Usually between 42 and 50. I can't remember it being above that. San Diego waters are in the low 50s to high 40s at depth. > >I hate weairng gloves and quit using > > them not long after I started diving. Question - do dry gloves feel odd? > > No. No because you are used to them? > > Does it take awhile to get used to them? > > About 2 seconds. Heh. Guess I will have to find a way to try these things out. And if I like them retrofit them onto my drysuit. K~ >I was thinking it would be nice to be able to interchage between dry gloves >and regular seals. I don't wear gloves now when I dive but I am thinking >when I hit PNW that I may change my tune on that one. Especially when I >start doing the longer deeper dives. The current standard ring system can handle that for WAY less than the cost of retrofitting zip-seals to an existing suit. Under $200 for the whole shebang, and leaves the original seals intact... if you can handle hard plastic rings around your wrists. --- Rich http://richlockyer.tripod.com/ |
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