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Best Wal Mart Snorkel Package?
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Mark Hoffman - 22 Feb 2008 21:47 GMT I'm gonna buy it for a week in Hawaii and leave it behind. What's the best brand Wal Mart carries? TIA!
Jer - 22 Feb 2008 23:32 GMT > I'm gonna buy it for a week in Hawaii and leave it behind. What's the > best brand Wal Mart carries? TIA! Bound to be made in China. Avoid the ones with lead paint.
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ben bradlee - 23 Feb 2008 01:41 GMT > I'm gonna buy it for a week in Hawaii and leave it behind. What's the > best brand Wal Mart carries? TIA! I'm betting you don't give a crap what brand it is. Or, maybe you don't want to leave Wal-Mart's best in Hawaii?
-hh - 23 Feb 2008 12:59 GMT > I'm gonna buy it for a week in Hawaii and leave it behind. What's the > best brand Wal Mart carries? TIA! You'll probably do better if you simply rent snorkel gear from "Snorkel Bob's" while you're in Hawaii. It will probably be better gear and cheaper, plus you'll get a map & local advise as to where to go...and not have to carry it in your luggage at all.
FWIW, which island you planning on going to?
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Bill Fright - 25 Feb 2008 02:48 GMT > I'm gonna buy it for a week in Hawaii and leave it behind. What's the > best brand Wal Mart carries? TIA! Never shop at walmart. It is the largest destroyers of local commerce ever devised. Rent in Hawaii.
ben bradlee - 25 Feb 2008 13:16 GMT >> I'm gonna buy it for a week in Hawaii and leave it behind. What's the >> best brand Wal Mart carries? TIA! > > Never shop at walmart. It is the largest destroyers of local commerce ever > devised. Rent in Hawaii. Change isn't always easy. Wal-Mart is hard to compete with; it raises the standard of living for many Americans by supplying Chinese goods at low prices.
Jer - 25 Feb 2008 14:47 GMT >>> I'm gonna buy it for a week in Hawaii and leave it behind. What's the >>> best brand Wal Mart carries? TIA! [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > standard of living for many Americans by supplying Chinese goods at low > prices. Yet, some still prefer quality over quantity. Some still prefer to do business with companies that don't browbeat their own suppliers into a sales contract. Some still prefer to do business with companies that offer ALL their own employees a fair work ethic.
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Lee Bell - 25 Feb 2008 14:59 GMT > Yet, some still prefer quality over quantity. Some still prefer to do > business with companies that don't browbeat their own suppliers into a > sales contract. Some still prefer to do business with companies that > offer ALL their own employees a fair work ethic. I've not had any more problem with quality at Wal-Mart than at other stores. They carry both good and bad products. It's up to the consumer to decide which is which.
Wal-Mart is simply working within the free enterprise system, the one our country is based on. Nobody, not retailers or retail customers, owe it to anyone, to pay more to those that are less able to compete.
Just like in the auto industry, the way to succeed is to provide a better product and/or a lower price than the competition. Complaining about foreign cars, without producing a competitive product, is futile.
I shop at Sams, Costco, Sears, Target, Kmart, Wal-Mart, Office Depot, Home Depot, Lowes, and other stores that use their buying power to provide the products I want at a reasonable price. Sorry about those that don't care enough to do the same, but that's the nature of competition.
I do, however, think it's nice of you to spend your money to help them out.
Lee
Jer - 25 Feb 2008 20:51 GMT >> Yet, some still prefer quality over quantity. Some still prefer to do >> business with companies that don't browbeat their own suppliers into a [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > Lee My sis used to work for Walmart in Fayetteville, AR.
Operative word: Use to, and for all the right reasons.
As a mere consumer in the public spaces of Walmart (and Sam's), I can understand how you believe you're doing the right thing. Truth is, Walmart has internal business practices than the other business you mentioned don't have. I would caution you to know the difference.
Walking into the door of a Walmart or Sam's is likened to trampling on the free enterprise system you espouse. Then again, you're such a good consumer, aren't you? Good consumers aren't necessarily educated consumers, are they?
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Lee Bell - 26 Feb 2008 12:32 GMT > My sis used to work for Walmart in Fayetteville, AR. > Operative word: Use to, and for all the right reasons. Of course. Employment is a very personal choice. Assuming her separation from the company was voluntary, it's a given that it was for the right reasons.
> As a mere consumer in the public spaces of Walmart (and Sam's), I can > understand how you believe you're doing the right thing. Truth is, [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > consumer, aren't you? Good consumers aren't necessarily educated > consumers, are they? Your statement that "Wal-Mart has internal business practices that the other businesses don't have provides no information at all. Of course they do. Every business has internal business practices that others don't have. If you believe those practices should be known, post them. If you believe that Wal-Mart and Sams trample on the free enterprise system, make your case. Just saying it does not do it.
Lee
Jer - 26 Feb 2008 13:22 GMT >> My sis used to work for Walmart in Fayetteville, AR. >> Operative word: Use to, and for all the right reasons. > > Of course. Employment is a very personal choice. Assuming her separation > from the company was voluntary, it's a given that it was for the right > reasons. Of course her leaving was voluntary - she refused to work for a company with a morally rotten core. Her opinion, and one that I share.
>> As a mere consumer in the public spaces of Walmart (and Sam's), I can >> understand how you believe you're doing the right thing. Truth is, [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Wal-Mart and Sams trample on the free enterprise system, make your case. > Just saying it does not do it. Well, it better "do it" because I'm under a gag order when it comes to details. I'm allowed to offer my personal opinion of the company, I'm allowed to offer the personal opinion of another member of my family, and I'm allowed to acknowledge the existence of a gag order, no more. I'm sure you understand that legal matters are often kept under wraps, sometimes permanently. If you have further questions I can refer you to the NLRB. Good luck.
In closing, I can also say you couldn't drag me into a Walmart store with a bulldozer and logging chain. Personal opinion, of course.
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Lee Bell - 26 Feb 2008 16:54 GMT >> Your statement that "Wal-Mart has internal business practices that the >> other businesses don't have provides no information at all. Of course [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Well, it better "do it" because I'm under a gag order when it comes to > details. Then you've already said more than you should have.
> In closing, I can also say you couldn't drag me into a Walmart store with > a bulldozer and logging chain. Personal opinion, of course. One I fully support your right to make. There are retailers I don't do business with by personal choice as well. As it happens, I place a high value on honesty and have been known to pay substantially more for some things than do business with those that have lied to me about price or the goods and services I'm to get for my money.
We all have our triggers. That's one of mine.
I still shop at Home Depot even though they consistently fail to have what I want, consistently fail to have anybody in the store that has a clue about the goods and services they sell (actually, there are two people in my local store with a clue), and, most recently, really annoyed me when they had three cashiers standing around talking, only one open, and then directed me to the "self checkout" lanes. I self checked out, all right, but I didn't buy any of their products that day. The only reason I keep trying is because they're less than a block from my house.
Lee
Jer - 26 Feb 2008 23:02 GMT >>> Your statement that "Wal-Mart has internal business practices that the >>> other businesses don't have provides no information at all. Of course [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Then you've already said more than you should have. Maybe for you, but not for them.
>> In closing, I can also say you couldn't drag me into a Walmart store with >> a bulldozer and logging chain. Personal opinion, of course. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > We all have our triggers. That's one of mine. When I ask a retailer to tell me their product source, they tell me or I walk. Walmart instructs their minions to never tell, and I consider this to be disingenuous at best, and dishonest at worst. What are they trying to hide? (just a rhetorical question, I already know).
> I still shop at Home Depot even though they consistently fail to have what I > want, consistently fail to have anybody in the store that has a clue about [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Lee I don't do self check-out - ain't my job, even if I have to remind them of that.
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Lee Bell - 25 Feb 2008 15:02 GMT I suggest you go on line and look at the Tusa Liberator package available from Diversdirect.com. It's a better mask and snorkel than you're likely to get at Wal-Mart, and may well be less expensive.
http://www.diversdirect.com/items/Tusa-Liberator-Combo-Pack_ID42468
Lee
Adam Helberg - 25 Feb 2008 22:52 GMT > I'm gonna buy it for a week in Hawaii and leave it behind. What's the > best brand Wal Mart carries? TIA! I doubt anyone here buys dive gear at Wal-Mart.
Adam
Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick - 26 Feb 2008 16:39 GMT >> I'm gonna buy it for a week in Hawaii and leave it behind. What's the >> best brand Wal Mart carries? TIA! > > I doubt anyone here buys dive gear at Wal-Mart. You'd be incorrect.
I got a mask for $15 ("Dolphino" brand) at Wallyworld, after losing one on a dive trip, used it for a year as a primary, a couple years as a spare, and gave it away to someone in need last year.
The skirt was a little thick (the only oddity, not necessarily a disparity, that I noticed), but it worked great, and fogged less than any mask I ever owned.
On the rare occasion I use a snorkel, I use ones that don't have extraneous percundis, wigetry and foolishness on the tube, and you can get that for about $5 at Walmart.
Anyone that ever spent more than $15 on a snorkel, and didn't at least learn a lesson, needs shock therapy and a keeper.
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Adam Helberg - 27 Feb 2008 06:16 GMT >>> I'm gonna buy it for a week in Hawaii and leave it behind. What's the >>> best brand Wal Mart carries? TIA! >> >> I doubt anyone here buys dive gear at Wal-Mart. > > You'd be incorrect. There's always an odd one in the crowd.
Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick - 29 Feb 2008 04:00 GMT >>>> I'm gonna buy it for a week in Hawaii and leave it behind. What's the >>>> best brand Wal Mart carries? TIA! [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > There's always an odd one in the crowd. Thank you.
Who wants to be one of the crowd?
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Lee Bell - 29 Feb 2008 12:48 GMT > Who wants to be one of the crowd? Depends on the crowd.
Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick - 01 Mar 2008 13:02 GMT >> Who wants to be one of the crowd? > > Depends on the crowd. That's an excellent point.
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