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Biofilter on regulator?

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Shawn B. - 08 Jan 2007 06:45 GMT
A dive buddy of mine uses a thing called a biofilter attached to his
regulator which he says helps purify the air and add moister to the intake.
Says he's happy and won't dive without it.

Is there such a need for this device?  Does it really help?  Am I missing
anything by not getting one myelf or adding something if I do?

Thanks,
Shawn
Ron - 08 Jan 2007 13:00 GMT
>A dive buddy of mine uses a thing called a biofilter attached to his
>regulator which he says helps purify the air and add moister to the intake.
>Says he's happy and won't dive without it.
>
>Is there such a need for this device?  Does it really help?  Am I missing
>anything by not getting one myelf or adding something if I do?

 The effect of the purify part is essentially nil.  If
you're breathing air that needs to be filtered, there's
probably worse problems with your air supply.
 The biofilter is designed to add humidity to the air.  On
a short dive, you might not notice any difference.  On a
long dive, have you ever noticed how uncomfortably dry your
mouth gets?  Air from SCUBA is essentially zero humidity.
The biofilter adds some water vapor.
 I looked into the biofilter - it seemed like something
nice to have, but not worth the extra maintenance.  Plus, if
you dive in very cold water, the extra humidity in the input
could increase the chances that you'll get second stage
freeze.
 As for how much it helps, see if you can borrow his rig
some time and find out for yourself.

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Dan Bracuk - 09 Jan 2007 23:18 GMT
"Shawn B." <leabre@html.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting
in:
:A dive buddy of mine uses a thing called a biofilter attached to his
:regulator which he says helps purify the air and add moister to the intake.
:Says he's happy and won't dive without it.
:
:Is there such a need for this device?  Does it really help?  Am I missing
:anything by not getting one myelf or adding something if I do?

I don't have one and survive well over half of my dives.

Dan Bracuk
If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure.
nospam@all.please.net - 10 Jan 2007 04:07 GMT
> "Shawn B." <leabre@html.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting
> in:
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>
> I don't have one and survive well over half of my dives.

You can let a little water into your 2nd stage and accomplish about the
same thing with some care.

Peel your lips away from the mouthpiece to let a little water into the 2nd
stage just before you pull some air.  Look down and put the tip of your
tongue behind your upper front teeth as you slowly pull air around the
sides of your tongue. Be prepared for a little water to sneak around until
you get the hang of it. That is, hold on to your 2nd stage in case you
need to cough.

Repeat as needed once you get the hang of it.
-hh - 10 Jan 2007 22:11 GMT
> A dive buddy of mine uses a thing called a biofilter attached to his
> regulator which he says helps purify the air and add moister to the intake.
> Says he's happy and won't dive without it.

For every 1 person that really needs such a device, there's 10 people
who simply like gimmicks and 50 people who will claim a placebo effect
because they know its there.

> Is there such a need for this device?

There is a need for some sort of humidfier for a very tiny percentage
of all divers.  You can generally expect most of them to already know
that they have a major respiratory ailment such as asthma.

> Does it really help?

The manufacturer make some money, sure.

It also helps you in having gear that requires more maintenance.
Afterall, this little device has a sponge in it that will need
servicing before & after dive:  it needs clean water before the dive
and it needs to be cleaned and dried afterwords, for you don't want it
to sit wet in the closet for a month and grow a nice bunch of fungus to
give you something like Legionnaire's Disease  ... or worse, something
that gunks up and plugs during a dive, which could kill you a lot
faster than Legionnaire's Disease.

> Am I missing anything by not getting one myelf or adding something if I do?

A way to make your gear more complex and less reliable?  Yes.

Anything else, probably not.  The bottom line is that if you're not
having 'cotton mouth' symptoms, then you simply don't need to bother
it.

And even if you are having cotton mouth, before trying this device, try
hydrating yourself better, and/or swap out your mouthpiece.  These
generally fix the problem and have the attributes of being cheap,
simple, and low maintenance ... a winning combination.

-hh
Shawn B. - 11 Jan 2007 06:39 GMT
> And even if you are having cotton mouth, before trying this device, try
> hydrating yourself better, and/or swap out your mouthpiece.  These
> generally fix the problem and have the attributes of being cheap,
> simple, and low maintenance ... a winning combination.

I don't have such problems.  Drink a little water before and after the dive,
during the dive I'm not terribly in need of anything other than more air
time.

Thanks,
Shawn
-hh - 11 Jan 2007 12:55 GMT
> > And even if you are having cotton mouth, before trying this device, try
> > hydrating yourself better, and/or swap out your mouthpiece.  These
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> during the dive I'm not terribly in need of anything other than more air
> time.

There ya go:   $150 saved.  

-hh
bullshark - 11 Jan 2007 19:35 GMT
> And even if you are having cotton mouth, before trying this device, try
> hydrating yourself better, and/or swap out your mouthpiece.

Bravo h! It seems like hardly anyone realizes this is a chronic
indicator of under-hydration.

It's amazing how many people don't know this

bullshark
 
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