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Scuba Forum / Scuba Equipment / May 2006Dry suit or Semi Dry for Rhode Island in Summer
Looks like could be spending 3 months in Rhode Island this summer, so do not know what the sea temps are, have never dry suit dived, and wonder if a Semi Dry would be sufficient. Else will wait till can vacation in the Caribbean again. Thanks all Rob Robert <osiris@woden.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in: :Looks like could be spending 3 months in Rhode Island this summer, so :do not know what the sea temps are, have never dry suit dived, and :wonder if a Semi Dry would be sufficient. I've done it, sort of. 31 F in a rented wetsuit, same sort of thing. But we all have our own thresholds, you have to find yours on your own. Dan Bracuk If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure. > Robert <osiris@woden.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in: > :Looks like could be spending 3 months in Rhode Island this summer, so [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > But we all have our own thresholds, you have to find yours on your > own. I too have dove wet for a long time in the North East. Chipping ice of the boat in December for a dive. Oh... what fun! Water temp low 40's upper 30's. Now, I dive dry (well, most of the time) all year. >> Robert <osiris@woden.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in: >> :Looks like could be spending 3 months in Rhode Island this summer, so [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > the boat in December for a dive. Oh... what fun! Water temp low 40's > upper 30's. Now, I dive dry (well, most of the time) all year. Oh come on now, he's going over the summer. It gets up to at least 50-60 during the summer there. Sometimes even as high as 70. I found this at the noaa website that might be useful to you: http://www.nodc.noaa.gov/dsdt/cwtg/natl.html Those numbers are pretty well in line with my personal experience as well. I should warn you that the popular dive-site guide book is full of local legends and historical inaccuracies, so if you want the HISTORY of the sites you dive, it's not that good, but it tells a good story. Can you spell surface? Do you know what a thermocline is? Does NOAA publish bottom temps? Beeerrrrrr, 40'F is cold! >>> Robert <osiris@woden.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in: >>> :Looks like could be spending 3 months in Rhode Island this summer, so [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > legends and historical inaccuracies, so if you want the HISTORY of the > sites you dive, it's not that good, but it tells a good story. >>> Robert <osiris@woden.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in: >>> :Looks like could be spending 3 months in Rhode Island this summer, so [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > legends and historical inaccuracies, so if you want the HISTORY of the > sites you dive, it's not that good, but it tells a good story. Wow.. last I looked.. those temps are surface temps. So, unless he is snorkeling, they really don't count. I dive NY,LI,NJ. Temps "might" be a little warmer in the summer, but not by much. Surface to about 30' is good. Go deeper and the temp drops. Depending on the depth, it will go down to the low to mid 50's. A 7mm wet/semi-wet or dry suit is definatly required. Hood and gloves too. Tony your always the diplomat, politely telling it the way it is! >>>> Robert <osiris@woden.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in: >>>> :Looks like could be spending 3 months in Rhode Island this summer, so [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > down to the low to mid 50's. A 7mm wet/semi-wet or dry suit is definatly > required. Hood and gloves too. > Tony your always the diplomat, politely telling it the way it is! I read your reply after I replied. Sorta like a reworded one by me. Sorry bout that! Even at Dutch Springs, during the summer, it can be mid 70's on surface to about 30'. After that... the temp drops to mid 40's at 60' on down to 100'. You'll suffer big time putting on that 7mm or dry suit, but unless you plan on doing the "weenie" dives (plane, fire truck, etc.), you aren't going to dive the Pumping Station in a 3mm at 70'. You'll last a short time and them need up to where the water is warmer. Gee... can't wait for the boat diving season to start. All this gear ready and no place to go... yet! > Gee... can't wait for the boat diving season to start. All this gear > ready and no place to go... yet! I thought the Wahoo started in April. Are they tougher than you? ;-) > I thought the Wahoo started in April. Are they tougher than you? ;-) No more Wahoo. Hank bought the boat. http://www.garlooent.com Hmm ... that schedule looks like its for this year, but it doesn't start until July.  SignatureArt > No more Wahoo. Hank bought the boat. http://www.garlooent.com > > Hmm ... that schedule looks like its for this year, but it doesn't start until > July. Thanks Art, I knew Hank bought the boat, but I didn't know the new website. I gues i'll have to all Hank to see if he's really not running until July - I know I went in May when Steve had the boat. >>No more Wahoo. Hank bought the boat. http://www.garlooent.com >> >>Hmm ... that schedule looks like its for this year, but it doesn't start until >>July. > Thanks Art, I knew Hank bought the boat, but I didn't know the new > website. I gues i'll have to all Hank to see if he's really not running > until July - I know I went in May when Steve had the boat. The Garloo is suppose to have refitted cabins, etc. Sounds nice. Now.. if they can only get the boat to go a little faster.... >>Gee... can't wait for the boat diving season to start. All this gear >>ready and no place to go... yet! > I thought the Wahoo started in April. Are they tougher than you? ;-) Nah... I have dove with the Wahoo (now Garloo) when Capt Janet and Steve along with Hank were there. I stopped because I had a couple of serious gripes with them (especially whenever Dan Berg showed up). No problem. I wound up diving on the Sea Hunter with the infamous Sal Arena. Certainly, he was/is a very colorful character. The stuff legends are made of (here in the North East). Most of it deserved.... but, he has the fastest boat and the most room for lounging/sleeping (a very important part of the day for me). Me? Chopped ice of the back of the boat (Sea Hunter) to go diving in December! I'll be hitting the beach this Sunday... nothing like OW checkouts and sand... plenty of sand... sand everywhere in everything! started in April. Are they tougher than you? ;-) > Nah... I have dove with the Wahoo (now Garloo) when Capt Janet and Steve > along with Hank were there. I stopped because I had a couple of [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > I'll be hitting the beach this Sunday... nothing like OW checkouts and > sand... plenty of sand... sand everywhere in everything! I dove with the Wahoo several times a few years back, always with Janet and Hank. I went to dinner with them a couple of times, and they are both pretty entertaining. One time we ran with only a total of 6, including Janet and Hank. That was in October, and they were the best dives I had up here. The only other boat I tried was Eagle's Nest, and that experience was beyond the pale. We did the Cooper River in Sc last week; the next dives are in SoFL over Memorial Day weekend. It looks like I'll be up here (near Philly) all summer, so maybe I'll give Sea Hunter a try. how many divers does he take on that boat? > I dove with the Wahoo several times a few years back, always with Janet > and Hank. I went to dinner with them a couple of times, and they are > both pretty entertaining. One time we ran with only a total of 6, > including Janet and Hank. That was in October, and they were the best > dives I had up here. The only other boat I tried was Eagle's Nest, and > that experience was beyond the pale. Ah... Capt Howard!! I great guy if you know him and he knows you. I've dove on his boat. Nice boat. Leather couch, more videos than Blockbuster, BUT .... I need that place to crash going to the dive site and on the way back home. > We did the Cooper River in Sc last week; the next dives are in SoFL over > Memorial Day weekend. It looks like I'll be up here (near Philly) all > summer, so maybe I'll give Sea Hunter a try. how many divers does he > take on that boat? The Sea Hunter was built for diving. It's spartan in features, but it's home for me. Here is a link to the website. http://seahunter.org/ It's a 60' ocean going boat with 10 bunks. All of us dive doubles w/slings. There is space for 20 of us. The boat is CG rated for 70+. Since we charter the boat from June to Sept., we basically have a loose schedule. I am pressing to put one together. We go out every Sunday. 2 dives. Off shore. Wrecks most between 100-130'. Doing some slightly deeper stuff also (150-200'). Rob, I was certified in RI and that's were I typically dive. You can do it with a 7mm wetsuit, gloves, and I use a hood through June. Last year it was mid 40s at about 40-50 ft depth on my first dive of the season which was in early June. I know of a few people who do almost year round in wetsuits however. Hope this helps. Jac Thanks Jac, my old 3/5mm wetsuit is getting abit ragtag dnow, so thought also might just save thta for the caribbean and but a semi-dry., I was looking at 1 5mm semidry that reckons it is as good as most other 7mm semi-dry's, it has roll back cuffs, and a guy at my old scuba club, reckons they are very good indeed, I also have a 1mm SKIN top which is great, and a 1.5 full length skin too, that under the semi dry may be enough, without being too stiff. Thanks again Rob >Rob, >I was certified in RI and that's were I typically dive. You can do it >with a 7mm wetsuit, gloves, and I use a hood through June. Last year it >was mid 40s at about 40-50 ft depth on my first dive of the season >which was in early June. I know of a few people who do almost year >round in wetsuits however. Hope this helps. Jac This is where the investment in a dry suit makes sense. You have to purchase a new suit anyway, why not get away from multi-layered wet suits and go for a dry suit. You will always be warm and comfortable without feeling restricted. You can add insulation when diving in the colder months and lighten up during the warm months. A bag type suit will out last a neoprene wet suit. You will be a happier diver wishing you had done it long ago. We dive with about 15 guys all in dry suits from June to December at depths to 130ft and beyond with out a hassle. I would never dive the NY/NJ wrecks wet. > Thanks Jac, my old 3/5mm wetsuit is getting abit ragtag dnow, so > thought also might just save thta for the caribbean and but a [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >>which was in early June. I know of a few people who do almost year >>round in wetsuits however. Hope this helps. Jac >Rob, >I was certified in RI and that's were I typically dive. You can do it >with a 7mm wetsuit, gloves, and I use a hood through June. Last year it >was mid 40s at about 40-50 ft depth on my first dive of the season >which was in early June. I know of a few people who do almost year >round in wetsuits however. Hope this helps. Jac My masochistic days are WAY over. Mid 40's in a wetsuit? C'mon, it's gotta be mid 60's for a wetsuit for me nowadays. What's the point? I want to actually enjoy the dive, I hate to be cold, or even uncomfortably chilly and frankly there is no reason to be. Dry all the way, baby, you'll thank your self forever. |
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