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Scuba Forum / Scuba Equipment / December 2005Henderson wetsuits
I'm looking to buy a couple of 5mm fullsuits for me and my wife. I've had several O'Neill surfing wetsuits over the years, and I liked them, but I can't seem to find anyone selling their diving wetsuits. I found one online place selling the '5000X' fullsuit, but it turns out they don't actually have any in stock. So, I gave up and started looking for other brands. Scuba.com has a bunch of Henderson suits. Their 'Hyperstretch' suit look nice, but I thought I'd check and see if anyone here has an opinion, good or bad. I bought a Mares Evolution Lady 5+5 mm fullsuit for 155 euros (5+5 meaning, the tight arm and leg cuffs provide the extra 5 mm) and I have been _very_ pleased with it. The cuffs work a bit like a semi-dry, limiting the water from flowing in and out. The suit kept me perfectly warm during dives in the Mediterranean in July at +17-20C and the Red Sea in November at +22-23C. If the waters are any cooler than +21C, I think a (separate) hood must be used. Mick kirjoitti: > I'm looking to buy a couple of 5mm fullsuits for me and my wife. > I've had several O'Neill surfing wetsuits over the years, and I [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Henderson suits. Their 'Hyperstretch' suit look nice, but I thought > I'd check and see if anyone here has an opinion, good or bad. > I'm looking to buy a couple of 5mm fullsuits for me and my wife. > I've had several O'Neill surfing wetsuits over the years, and I [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Henderson suits. Their 'Hyperstretch' suit look nice, but I thought > I'd check and see if anyone here has an opinion, good or bad. Henderson makes nice wetsuits. I have their hyperstretch hoods and their the best. The suits are a bit pricing for what I do (I have a cheaper 3/2 jumpsuit) but if I dove more, I'd buy Henderson since the hyperstretch material is great. > Henderson makes nice wetsuits. I have their hyperstretch hoods and their > the best. The suits are a bit pricing for what I do (I have a cheaper 3/2 > jumpsuit) but if I dove more, I'd buy Henderson since the hyperstretch > material is great. Okay, that's good. Chalk one up for Henderson. That's just what I wanted to know. Thanks! > I'm looking to buy a couple of 5mm fullsuits for me and my wife. > I've had several O'Neill surfing wetsuits over the years, and I [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Henderson suits. Their 'Hyperstretch' suit look nice, but I thought > I'd check and see if anyone here has an opinion, good or bad. You can't beat the fit, even if your weight tends to fluctuate. The only down side is that the outer material tends to "catch" and you will get "pills" and such quicker than a normal wet suit. Very comfy, but expensive. > You can't beat the fit, even if your weight tends to fluctuate. The > only down side is that the outer material tends to "catch" and you will > get "pills" and such quicker than a normal wet suit. Very comfy, but > expensive. Well, that's nice to know. I suppose that's from the stretchiness of the suit. My weight does fluctu"ate" a bit, so that would be a big plus. Thanks! My wet suit keeps shrinking too! Al Bottoms Up Divers >> You can't beat the fit, even if your weight tends to fluctuate. The >> only down side is that the outer material tends to "catch" and you will [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Thanks! "Mick" <micknewton@direcway.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in: :I'm looking to buy a couple of 5mm fullsuits for me and my wife. :I've had several O'Neill surfing wetsuits over the years, and I [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] :Henderson suits. Their 'Hyperstretch' suit look nice, but I thought :I'd check and see if anyone here has an opinion, good or bad. My wife loves her 5 mm Henderson Goldcore suit. Dan Bracuk If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure. > My wife loves her 5 mm Henderson Goldcore suit. That's good to hear Dan, since I just ordered two Henderson suits. Scuba.com had the Hyperstretch and the Goldcore for the same price, so I gave my wife a choice. She picked the Hyperstretch, so that's what I ordered. I'm thinking about ordering a couple of the hoods to go with them, but I'm not sure. I've never used a hood myself and I hear that a lot of people don't like them. "Mick" <micknewton@direcway.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in: :I'm thinking about ordering a couple of the hoods to go with :them, but I'm not sure. I've never used a hood myself and I hear that a :lot of people don't like them. Hoods will keep you warmer. If you have never used a hood, and were not getting cold, you don't need one. I don't wear one. My wife does. Dan Bracuk If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure. http://www.divesports.com has the Henderson Hyperstreches on sale right now. You can go to the above URL, but because of Henderson's dealer agreement on 'minimum advertised price", they can't advertise any cheaper.... you have to call them on the phone to get it cheaper . 800-601-DIVE. the 5mm is $255 and the 3mm is I think $225 or $230. I just bought the 5mm. I haven't seen it that low of a price anywher elese. -mike mmsutton@gmail.com pounded away at his keyboard resulting in: :http://www.divesports.com has the Henderson Hyperstreches on sale right :now. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] :I just bought the 5mm. I haven't seen it that low of a price anywher :elese. Better hope it fits, given that you didn't get a chance to try it on first. Dan Bracuk If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure. > You can go to the above URL, but because of Henderson's dealer > agreement [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > -mike That's a good price for that suit. Even their listed price is less than I paid. It sounds like you got a good deal. FWIW, I found several reviews from people that have Hyperstretch suits and they all seem to love 'em. The women said it's the first suit that fits 'real' women. It's very easy to get into, and it stretches around their curves and doesn't crush their boobs. Some said the exterior of a Hyperstretch suit is easier to damage than regular neoprene though. I went ahead and bought the matching hoods and gloves, so we should be good to go now. I can't wait to try mine out next month. C'mon vacation! >>You can go to the above URL, but because of Henderson's dealer >>agreement [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > That's a good price for that suit. Even their listed price is less than > I paid. It sounds like you got a good deal. We have a handful of dive shops in our area, but they can't do our equipment service and never seem to have the items we want, in our size, or at a competitive price. Dive Sports, OTOH, meets all these criteria. It's 80 miles away, but it's where I go to shop. The owner, and his son, are good people and easy to deal with. > That's a good price for that suit. Even their listed price is less than > I paid. It sounds like you got a good deal. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > good to go now. I can't wait to try mine out next month. C'mon > vacation! Fat women seem to really like them. The normal or non-stretchy suits are designed-it seems-for those of us who are in shape. I prefer the O'Neill suits to the Hendersons. My friend who is quite overweight just can't find one that fits her. I believe that the assumption with regular suits is that women who wear them are proportional *and* slim. If you have a big anything they are hard to fit. I wonder if men have the same problem? > I wonder if men have the same problem? Fitting difficulties are unisex but one would hope to maintain fitting individuality by bulging in locations related to one's sex. > women who wear them are proportional *and* slim. If you have a big anything > they are hard to fit. > > I wonder if men have the same problem? I can't speak for other guys, but I've always had trouble finding one that would stretch enough to fit correctly from my crotch down to my knee. :) >> women who wear them are proportional *and* slim. If you have a big >> anything [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > that would stretch enough to fit correctly from my crotch down to my > knee. :) You guys do kill me :-) But seriously. My husband has decided to break down this new year and buy a 3/2 for our liveaboard vacation. He is average height but has short legs (30 in inseam I believe) and a bit of a belly (36 in waist). Is there a brand that you gentlemen would recommend over another for him to try first? I was thinking Henderson stretch, but they are so pricey :-( He'll be buying it when we get to Miami so he won't have a lot of time to shop around. Buying a 3mm here at home is not possible--we live in Alaska. Dry suits galore but no real selection of 3mm or 3/2s. "Irene" <spamlock@yahoo.mail> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in: :But seriously. My husband has decided to break down this new year and buy a :3/2 for our liveaboard vacation. He is average height but has short legs (30 [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] :shop around. Buying a 3mm here at home is not possible--we live in Alaska. :Dry suits galore but no real selection of 3mm or 3/2s. I suggest custom made. These guys, http://www.wetwear.com/, will do that for you. So what if it costs a few dollars more. Whatever he gets, he has to wear diving, so he may as well get one that fits. Dan Bracuk If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure. > But seriously. My husband has decided to break down this new year and buy a > 3/2 for our liveaboard vacation. He is average height but has short legs (30 > in inseam I believe) and a bit of a belly (36 in waist). Is there a brand > that you gentlemen would recommend over another for him to try first? Look at the O'Neill 3/2 - it should fit, and the price is nice in the outlets in FL > But seriously. My husband has decided to break down this new year and buy a > 3/2 for our liveaboard vacation. He is average height but has short legs (30 [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > shop around. Buying a 3mm here at home is not possible--we live in Alaska. > Dry suits galore but no real selection of 3mm or 3/2s. Why don't you buy a suit online and have it shipped to your door? My new Henderson Hyperstretch Titanium wetsuit was waiting for me when I got home from work this afternoon. I got the fullsuit, hood, and gloves, all in 5mm, and it all fits great. This stuff really hugs the shape of your body and it feels very nice! It's easy to put on too. We got the same setup for my wife, but her suit was a little too big so we're exchanging it for a smaller size. I called the guys at Scuba.com and told them about it, and they're already shipping her new suit out to us. With Scuba.com you don't even need an RMA# to return or exchange a suit, but since we're leaving on our trip soon I wanted to make sure they had the new one in stock and get it on its way before they ran out of stock. The 3mm Hyperstretch is $265.78 at Scuba.com. They also have the Tilos 3/2mm Superstretch Titanium fullsuit for $139.95. I don't know how good Tilos suits are, but, according to their ad, it sounds like the same material, "4-way Super-stretch stretches up to 250% more than standard neoprene" If you don't need the Superstretch neoprene, they have the Neosport by Henderson 3/2mm fullsuit for $72.95, or the XS Scuba 3mm Titanium suit for $89.95. They have others too, with some fullsuits going for only $39.95. I know I probably sound like an ad for Scuba.com, but I'm not associated with them in any way, other then as a satisfied customer. I've bought a bunch of stuff from them over the past week or so and they really have been great. For instance, I ordered a Pelican 1660 dry box without the foam inserts (an $80 extra), and before they shipped it I found it elsewhere for about $100 less, with the foam inserts. I called them to cancel the order, but they offered to sell me the case with the foam inserts for an even better price. So, I got a very good deal on the case. (BTW, if you're looking for a good dry box, this 1660 is awesome!) > Why don't you buy a suit online and have it shipped to your door? I buy a lot online and bought my O'Neill 3/2 from Divers Direct. Perfect fit. But I had tried one on in a store once so I knew what size I needed. My husband is not so sure. Some of those charts don't match up with our measurements. Figured that in his case it would just be safer to stop at the first store we came across and that way he could try some on. "Irene" <spamlock@yahoo.mail> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in: :I buy a lot online and bought my O'Neill 3/2 from Divers Direct. Perfect :fit. But I had tried one on in a store once so I knew what size I needed. You should be ashamed of yourself, scumbucket. Dan Bracuk If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure. > I buy a lot online and bought my O'Neill 3/2 from Divers Direct. Perfect > fit. But I had tried one on in a store once so I knew what size I needed. My > husband is not so sure. Some of those charts don't match up with our > measurements. Figured that in his case it would just be safer to stop at the > first store we came across and that way he could try some on. Believe me, none of the measurements they listed for the Hyperstretch suit, in any size, matched my... ummm... manly measurements (don't tell anyone, but it seems that some of my manly chest has somehow sunk down to my manly belly.) Anyway, I just picked the size that was closest and it fits great. Their ad says, "Can be worn comfortably by multiple persons with different body types. Get a custom wetsuit without the added costs!" It sounded good to me, and it is. YMMV > Believe me, none of the measurements they listed for the Hyperstretch > suit, in any size, matched my... ummm... manly measurements (don't tell [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > It sounded good to me, and it is. YMMV I wonder how they come up with those charts. With women, if we have a 36 chest then they think we must have a 27+ inch waist and even bigger thighs. Apparently the opposite is true also. A small waisted woman must be flat chested to fit into their size charts :-) O'Neill is the only one so far that has come even close to my measurements. It still bothers me that I take a size 6 in women's clothing but have to buy a size 10 in a wetsuit. Talk about making you feel like your fat when you're not. The whole thing is comical. I'll have to try on a hyperstretch. > I wonder how they come up with those charts. With women, if we have a 36 > chest then they think we must have a 27+ inch waist and even bigger thighs. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > a size 10 in a wetsuit. Talk about making you feel like your fat when you're > not. They probably figure that it isn't cost effective to make suits to fit 'other' body shapes. They just target the 'average' shapes and say to hell with the rest. > The whole thing is comical. I'll have to try on a hyperstretch. You should. It's the most comfortable suit I've ever worn, and the easiest to get on too. >> I buy a lot online and bought my O'Neill 3/2 from Divers Direct. Perfect >> fit. But I had tried one on in a store once so I knew what size I needed. My [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > It sounded good to me, and it is. YMMV That ad makes it sound like they're deigned to fit a large person and a small person in the same suit at the same time... (Custom designed with 4 arms and 4 legs?). >>> I buy a lot online and bought my O'Neill 3/2 from Divers Direct. Perfect >>> fit. But I had tried one on in a store once so I knew what size I [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > small person in the same suit at the same time... (Custom designed with > 4 arms and 4 legs?). Aw yeah...the two-person fullsuit. Great way to stick with your buddy. > > My wife loves her 5 mm Henderson Goldcore suit. > That's good to hear Dan, since I just ordered two Henderson suits. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > them, but I'm not sure. I've never used a hood myself and I hear that a > lot of people don't like them. I hate hoods but if you are going to wear one, the hyperstretch is the way to go. Goes on easy and I hardly notice its on (reduction in hearing is the main change). > I hate hoods but if you are going to wear one, the hyperstretch is the way > to go. Goes on easy and I hardly notice its on (reduction in hearing is the > main change). Thanks Vaughn. I'll probably go ahead and get a couple of them. They're not too expensive, and they may come in handy at times. Try leisurepro.com They usually have them in stock, but a friend and I are looking for wet suits and they're both out of stock at a couple of on line stores. I'm looking for a Mares 3mm and he's looking for a Henderson 3mm XXL. Scuba.com has the Henderson 3mm XXL for $265.78, but I didn't see any Mares suits. Did you try onlinescuba.com for the O'Neill suits? They sell a bunch of different types. They're one of the few places that advertised the O'Neill dive suit that I was looking for, but they didn't actually have any in stock. |
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