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Steve Johnson - 10 Apr 2005 13:49 GMT
I am NAUI certified but its been years since I have been diving.  I have a
pool at my house and can rent tanks from a local dive shop.  I would like to
buy some used equipment just to go to bottom of the pool.

If memory serves, all I need is the regulator or is it called an octopus?
Can anyone recommend some good used brands that might be out on ebay?

Thanks.
Rudy Benner - 10 Apr 2005 14:08 GMT
If you can rent tanks from the LDS, you can probably rent regs as well.

>I am NAUI certified but its been years since I have been diving.  I have a
>pool at my house and can rent tanks from a local dive shop.  I would like
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> Thanks.
Douglas W. \ - 10 Apr 2005 15:43 GMT
> If you can rent tanks from the LDS, you can probably rent regs as well.
>
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> > If memory serves, all I need is the regulator or is it called an octopus?
> > Can anyone recommend some good used brands that might be out on ebay?

 And you can rent a refresher course.

 It usually comes with a pool and equipment.
Scott Migaldi - 12 Apr 2005 09:35 GMT
I am thinking that if you do not know the difference between a regulator
and an octopus before you buy any equipment you should go and have
yourself a refresher course.

Scott
Mi-150972

>>I am NAUI certified but its been years since I have been diving.  I have a
>>pool at my house and can rent tanks from a local dive shop.  I would like
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>>
>>Thanks.
Charlie Hammond - 12 Apr 2005 14:34 GMT
>I am thinking that if you do not know the difference between a regulator
>and an octopus before you buy any equipment you should go and have
>yourself a refresher course.

I have a piece of paper that allows me to fly a "single engine ariplane land".
I'd only "need" to get an up-to-date medical and to a bi-annual review.
You can damn well betcha that I'd take considerably more instruction before
I actually took off on my own!

My point is: I'm not at all certain that a refresher course is enough for
this individual.  Perhaps he should re-take the full certification course.

>>>I am NAUI certified but its been years since I have been diving.  I have a
>>>pool at my house and can rent tanks from a local dive shop.  I would like
>>>to buy some used equipment just to go to bottom of the pool.
>>>
>>>If memory serves, all I need is the regulator or is it called an octopus?
>>>Can anyone recommend some good used brands that might be out on ebay?

**** STEVE -- THERE ARE PLENTY OF WAYS TO KILL YOURSElF SCUBA DIVING
             EVEN IF IT IS "ONLY" IN A POOL!

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John Cassara - 13 Apr 2005 13:26 GMT
I have been out of the water for 2 years. I too have a pool and own my own
equipment. I am advanced certified with a bunch of specialty courses
including dry suit (I own one). I have dove my pool many times, BUT I still
took a refresher this season before doing any real diving. My dive shop's
refresher is the open water cert course leaving you the option as to how
much of the theory side you want to attend. I sat through the whole course.
The charge was $75.00 and well worth it. It amounted to full use of
equipment, instruction and about 8 hours of pool time. Go take a refresher
it might just save your buddies life!

>>I am thinking that if you do not know the difference between a regulator
>>and an octopus before you buy any equipment you should go and have
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> **** STEVE -- THERE ARE PLENTY OF WAYS TO KILL YOURSElF SCUBA DIVING
>              EVEN IF IT IS "ONLY" IN A POOL!
Padeen - 13 Apr 2005 18:17 GMT
Hmmmm   Sounds like my local shop is quite liberal wrt refreshers; they
allow lifetime refreshers to any previous student interested in joining an
already scheduled class, for free!
P
Richard J Kinch - 13 Apr 2005 09:13 GMT
> If memory serves, all I need is the regulator or is it called an
> octopus? Can anyone recommend some good used brands that might be out
> on ebay?

Assuming you have mask and fins, at the very minimum you need a first stage
to clamp on the tank, and a second stage to breathe.  This assumes you'll
just carry a loose tank around the bottom.  If you want to wear it, you'll
need at least a backpack with straps, or a BC.  You'll need weight to hold
you down; this could be a simple as a concrete block or other dense object
you hang onto (not very self-contained), to a real weight belt.  You will
need a pressure gage to know how much of the tank is consumed.  You will
need an octopus if you want a friend down with you sharing the same tank.

There are lots of vintage Dacor, Scuba Pro, US Divers, regulators on eBay.  
I've gotten decent 2nd stages for $5, and 1st/2nd combos for $25.  Check
out the "vintage" category.  For a shallow pool, any old rig that works is
all you need if you're mentally prepared for it to quit any time.  I drill
my 10-year-old with out-of-air surprises, and he handles it fine.
Ian Ring - 05 May 2005 14:18 GMT
The argument in parallel threads about re-certifying is valid. Go for it.

Aside, I would say the minimum equipment you need to sink to the bottom of
your pool and stay there is a tank and a 2-stage regulator. But I think
you'll find that very awkward by itself; a BCD is not just for bouyancy
compensation, it's also a really handy place to strap on the tank.

A mask would make your underwater sojourn more pleasant as well

~ ian
associate columnist,
http://www.thescubaguide.com

>I am NAUI certified but its been years since I have been diving.  I have a
>pool at my house and can rent tanks from a local dive shop.  I would like
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>
> Thanks.
Lee Bell - 05 May 2005 17:42 GMT
> The argument in parallel threads about re-certifying is valid. Go for it.

If you certified once, I suspect you remember enough to survive a dive in a
pool.  Don't hold you breath as you ascend pretty much covers it.

> Aside, I would say the minimum equipment you need to sink to the bottom of
> your pool and stay there is a tank and a 2-stage regulator. But I think
> you'll find that very awkward by itself; a BCD is not just for bouyancy
> compensation, it's also a really handy place to strap on the tank.
> A mask would make your underwater sojourn more pleasant as well

A tank, some kind of harness, a mask and regulator are the minimum.  If
you're buoyant, as most of us older guys are, you'll probably want a weight
belt too.  As long as you don't overweight by much, you can probably do
without a BCD.  If, on the other hand, you add enough weight to be able to
work on the bottom easily, you'll need some kind of buoyancy device.  The
cheapest you could go is probably an out of date airline life vest.  A
snorkle vest would be better.

Your best bet for buying equipment is to check around local dive stores for
rental equipment being retired.  Any name brand regulator will serve you in
the pool.  It does not have to be high performance for what you plan.  On
line purchasing is, in my personal opinion, something only the experienced
should do and even they should buy carefully.

Lee
Ian Ring - 06 May 2005 05:41 GMT
heck, you could fill your pockets with rocks and suck air through a $1
garage sale garden hose. If your lungs are weak, get a buddy to blow in the
other end.

~ ian
associate columnist,
www.thescubaguide.com
 
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