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SeaLife  SL145 Pro Set with DC310 Digital Camera

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Michael Short - 05 Mar 2005 22:08 GMT
I am thinking of buying a SeaLife DC310 digital with the basic strobe set.

Has anyone had any experience with them?  Is it worth purchasing?

Mike
nitespark - 05 Mar 2005 22:52 GMT
> I am thinking of buying a SeaLife DC310 digital with the basic strobe set.
>
> Has anyone had any experience with them?  Is it worth purchasing?
>
> Mike

I use the Sealife DC310 and just recently picked up a 2nd strobe for it.

I would recommend against using the internal strobe.  Pay the extra and
get an external strobe and the diffuser.

Here are a few pictures I took with it last year in Cozumel.

http://www.divingenterprises.com/MAIN_PhotoGallery.cfm?whichtoshow=COZ2004

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Rudy Benner - 05 Mar 2005 23:20 GMT
Love that backlighting on the first one, Andy. The bug shot is excellent.
The second strobe would have improved it.

49 days until Coco View.

>> I am thinking of buying a SeaLife DC310 digital with the basic strobe
>> set.
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> http://www.divingenterprises.com/MAIN_PhotoGallery.cfm?whichtoshow=COZ2004
nitespark - 06 Mar 2005 02:40 GMT
Thanks Rudy...I agree, a second strobe would have made it better which
is why I bought a second strobe.  That was on our night dive in Coz and
the current was really ripping.  I was not using a modeling light so I
kinda had to "guess" at my shot (for the bug).  The "bad" thing about
the second strobe is its going to be a bit more difficult to manipulate.
 So if I get less than desireable conditions such as significant
current, confined space or something like that, its going to be a bit
more difficult (but not impossible) to handle.  I will just have to get
used to it.  Last month, I as diving Ginnie Springs and took the camera
with me into the "Ear".  The "Ear" had a pretty high flow that day, and
I had a bit of a struggle to get down to the bottom without beating the
hell out of the camera and/or strobe.  A second strobe would have made
it even more difficult.

Andy

> Love that backlighting on the first one, Andy. The bug shot is excellent.
> The second strobe would have improved it.
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>>http://www.divingenterprises.com/MAIN_PhotoGallery.cfm?whichtoshow=COZ2004

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Rudy Benner - 06 Mar 2005 04:39 GMT
My new D-2000 has a modelling light. It shuts off during the exposure, then
comes on again. They recommend putting a red filter (supplied) over it to
avoid scaring away the shy critters. The diffuser comes with its own red
filter for the modelling light.

A second strobe, my budget is still in shock from buying the first one and
the wide angle lens. This after paying for 2 weeks at Coco View. Life is
short, die broke.

This will be a bit of a steep learning curve for me. I hope I get at least a
few good shots. I plan on taking hundreds. 4 sets of batteries. 4 CF cards.
2 chargers.

> Thanks Rudy...I agree, a second strobe would have made it better which is
> why I bought a second strobe.  That was on our night dive in Coz and the
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nitespark - 06 Mar 2005 13:07 GMT
As with any new gadget, there is a steep learning curve.  The camera I
had been using was a Sony Mavica FD7.  640X480jpg format in an Ikelite
housing.  It took good pictures but no where NEAR the resolution of the
DC310.  There were some features about it I did like though.  It was
GREAT on macro shots without doing any type of adjustment or changing
lenses.  It used ambient light.  No flash but actually did rather well
with that.  I did have to use a blue filter with it which I don't use
with the Sealife.

> My new D-2000 has a modelling light. It shuts off during the exposure, then
> comes on again. They recommend putting a red filter (supplied) over it to
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Dan Bracuk - 06 Mar 2005 17:16 GMT
"Rudy Benner" <bennerREMOVE@personainternet.com> pounded away at his
keyboard resulting in:
:My new D-2000 has a modelling light. It shuts off during the exposure, then
:comes on again. They recommend putting a red filter (supplied) over it to
:avoid scaring away the shy critters. The diffuser comes with its own red
:filter for the modelling light.

:A second strobe, my budget is still in shock from buying the first one and
:the wide angle lens. This after paying for 2 weeks at Coco View. Life is
:short, die broke.

:This will be a bit of a steep learning curve for me. I hope I get at least a
:few good shots. I plan on taking hundreds. 4 sets of batteries. 4 CF cards.
:2 chargers.

Boy that's a lot of stuff.  

Dan Bracuk
If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure.
Wayne Gallinger - 06 Mar 2005 04:07 GMT
I have just started using the DC310 with the one strobe. On my first dives
with it I found that the positive bouyancy was difficult to deal with, the
strobe was always getting hung up in my reg hoses. I have added some weight
to the boom but have not had a chance to try it yet. Do you use weight on
yours?

Wayne

>> I am thinking of buying a SeaLife DC310 digital with the basic strobe
>> set.
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> http://www.divingenterprises.com/MAIN_PhotoGallery.cfm?whichtoshow=COZ2004
nitespark - 06 Mar 2005 13:03 GMT
> I have just started using the DC310 with the one strobe. On my first dives
> with it I found that the positive bouyancy was difficult to deal with, the
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>>http://www.divingenterprises.com/MAIN_PhotoGallery.cfm?whichtoshow=COZ2004

No, I don't use extra weight with mine.  Sealife makes a weight
specifically designed for the DC310 camera.  I think it is 13oz's if
memory serves me correctly.

I have thought about adding weight and may end up doing it.

Andy
Wayne Gallinger - 06 Mar 2005 15:32 GMT
>>>I use the Sealife DC310 and just recently picked up a 2nd strobe for it.
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> Andy

I saw the weight on the Sealife website, and yes it is 13 oz's. It is
plastic coated and designed to screw onto the boom of the strobe. As I had
some extra weight kicking around I just made up one of my own that weighned
the same as Sealife's and attached it. I will be heading of to the local
saltwater pool today to see how it works. The lakes up here are still frozen
over so I wont have a chance to try it in open water until I head to the
coast next month.

Wayne
nitespark - 06 Mar 2005 17:51 GMT
>>>>I use the Sealife DC310 and just recently picked up a 2nd strobe for it.
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> Wayne

I will be interested in your impression and opinion of the weight.

Andy
Wayne Gallinger - 07 Mar 2005 01:33 GMT
> I will be interested in your impression and opinion of the weight.
>
> Andy

Andy et al,

   I just returned from the pool for the first test of the weight on the
camera. The pool does not provide a complete picture but does give at least
some initial indications. I found the weight to be a definite improvement in
the handling of the camera. With the weight attached to the bottom of the
strobe boom, and therefor the bottom of the camera the whole unit tended to
stay in a natural strobe up position making aiming the strobe very easy. The
weight makes the camera easy to get out of the way if needed. My wife and I
did some buddy breathing practice and I adjusted her tank strap, just for
practice, and the camera stayed below my hands and out of the way just like
a normal dive light would. It was also possible to clip the camera to a
lower d-ring and keep it out of the way. Doing so before the added weight
always made the camera float just about at eye level.

   I will be taking the camera with me to Vancouver Island the second week
of April and will get a chance to put it to some real use then. If anyone
would like me to post my impressions then let me know and I will try to do
so.

Wayne

nitespark - 07 Mar 2005 01:46 GMT
>>I will be interested in your impression and opinion of the weight.
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> Wayne
>  

Wayne,
Thanks for the information.  I guess the camera weight thing is
something I don't think much about......until I have submerged with it.
I am not sure if an external strobe or even two external strobes would
call for more weight.  I guess thats something I will have to experiment
with.

I keep my camera clipped off on a retractor.  I have it set up two ways
on my BC.  One clip hooks my camera into the retractor, the other just
hard clips it to the BC.

FWIW, I think Sealife recommends against doing a giant stride or other
hard entry with the camera.  As I recall, the recommend entering the
water and have someone hand it to you.

Andy

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Dan Bracuk - 07 Mar 2005 02:20 GMT
nitespark <nitespark@cox.net> pounded away at his keyboard resulting
in:
:FWIW, I think Sealife recommends against doing a giant stride or other
:hard entry with the camera.  As I recall, the recommend entering the
:water and have someone hand it to you.

Not just Sea Life.  I also recommend against doing a giant stride or
other hard entry with the camera.  If you can't have someone hand it
to you, figure out a way to shield the camera with your body as you
enter the water.  Back rolls are good for this.

Dan Bracuk
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Jer - 07 Mar 2005 04:22 GMT
> nitespark <nitespark@cox.net> pounded away at his keyboard resulting
> in:
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> to you, figure out a way to shield the camera with your body as you
> enter the water.  Back rolls are good for this.

The photogs I dive with attach their gear to a tether line over the side
before they get in the water, and retrieve from the line after entry.
Reverse for boarding.

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Dan Bracuk - 07 Mar 2005 23:03 GMT
Jer <gdunn@airmail.ten> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in:
:The photogs I dive with attach their gear to a tether line over the side
:before they get in the water, and retrieve from the line after entry.
:Reverse for boarding.

Human tethers are easier.  Are there none available on your boats?

Dan Bracuk
If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure.
Wayne Gallinger - 07 Mar 2005 02:26 GMT
> Wayne,
> Thanks for the information.  I guess the camera weight thing is something
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>
> Andy

The setup I have is with one external strobe and the 13 oz's seems to be
just right. I think a second strobe would probably benifit from a bit more
weight but not much.

Having someone hand me the camera is what I was doing when I took it boat
diving in Feb. I think just hanging onto it while doing a giant stride would
be problematic at best.

Wayne
Dan Bracuk - 07 Mar 2005 02:34 GMT
nitespark <nitespark@cox.net> pounded away at his keyboard resulting
in:
:FWIW, I think Sealife recommends against doing a giant stride or other
:hard entry with the camera.  As I recall, the recommend entering the
:water and have someone hand it to you.

Not just Sea Life.  I also recommend against doing a giant stride or
other hard entry with the camera.  If you can't have someone hand it
to you, figure out a way to shield the camera with your body as you
enter the water.  Back rolls are good for this.

Dan Bracuk
If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure.
Dan Bracuk - 07 Mar 2005 03:54 GMT
nitespark <nitespark@cox.net> pounded away at his keyboard resulting
in:
:FWIW, I think Sealife recommends against doing a giant stride or other
:hard entry with the camera.  As I recall, the recommend entering the
:water and have someone hand it to you.

Not just Sea Life.  I also recommend against doing a giant stride or
other hard entry with the camera.  If you can't have someone hand it
to you, figure out a way to shield the camera with your body as you
enter the water.  Back rolls are good for this.

Dan Bracuk
If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure.
Dan Bracuk - 06 Mar 2005 17:15 GMT
"Wayne Gallinger" <wgallinger@shaw.ca> pounded away at his keyboard
resulting in:
:I have just started using the DC310 with the one strobe. On my first dives
:with it I found that the positive bouyancy was difficult to deal with, the
:strobe was always getting hung up in my reg hoses. I have added some weight
:to the boom but have not had a chance to try it yet.

Another option is to keep the camera in your hand.

Dan Bracuk
If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure.
Wayne Gallinger - 06 Mar 2005 17:29 GMT
Normally that would be the best choice. On my last dive my buddy was having
a problem with her mask flooding and as I was helping her get that
straightened out I needed both hands. As the camera was always floating up
it kept getting in the way. With the weight added it should hang down like a
light.

Wayne

> "Wayne Gallinger" <wgallinger@shaw.ca> pounded away at his keyboard
> resulting in:
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Dan Bracuk - 06 Mar 2005 17:12 GMT
"Michael Short" <mdshort@ozemail.com.au> pounded away at his keyboard
resulting in:
:I am thinking of buying a SeaLife DC310 digital with the basic strobe set.
:Has anyone had any experience with them?  Is it worth purchasing?

The earlier 1.3 megapixel Sea Life was ok underwater with a strobe,
not so good on land.  Given that the camera has been improved, you
might not need a strobe at all.  You can always try it without a
strobe and get one later if you think it is necessary.

Dan Bracuk
If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure.
 
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