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Jeff - 19 Aug 2003 00:28 GMT
I just purchased a new Sherwood Avid BC with a Blizzard Reg and Octopus. I
have approx 4 dives on this equipment and am now considering taking a Nitrox
course. Can I use this equipment with the Nitrox or will I need a different
Regulator? Thanks
Alan Street - 19 Aug 2003 01:40 GMT
>I just purchased a new Sherwood Avid BC with a Blizzard Reg and Octopus. I
>have approx 4 dives on this equipment and am now considering taking a Nitrox
>course. Can I use this equipment with the Nitrox or will I need a different
>Regulator? Thanks

You'll definately need a new regulator. It will have to have a green cover to
go with the big "Nitrox" sticker on your tank ;-).
Jon C - 19 Aug 2003 05:23 GMT
> I just purchased a new Sherwood Avid BC with a Blizzard Reg and Octopus. I
> have approx 4 dives on this equipment and am now considering taking a Nitrox
> course. Can I use this equipment with the Nitrox or will I need a different
> Regulator? Thanks

Your regulator will be fine.  Pretty much all regs are good for Nitrox mixes
up to 40%, which is all you'll be taught to use anyhow.

The BC doesn't matter.
Marcin Dobrucki - 19 Aug 2003 11:13 GMT
>>I just purchased a new Sherwood Avid BC with a Blizzard Reg and Octopus. I
>>have approx 4 dives on this equipment and am now considering taking a
> Nitrox course. Can I use this equipment with the Nitrox or will I need a different
>
>>Regulator? Thanks

> Your regulator will be fine.  Pretty much all regs are good for Nitrox mixes
> up to 40%, which is all you'll be taught to use anyhow.
>
> The BC doesn't matter.

  Oh yes it matters.  Please see your manufacturer's specific
instructions.  Some BCD's require some kind of conversion to be used
with Nitrox mixes above 21%.  The same goes for regulators.  They can be
used, but some gaskets/etc might need to be changed.

  If you cannot find contact information for the manufacturer, ask the
place you purchased from if they know or if they could provide you with
contact info.

  BR, Marcin
Tony - 19 Aug 2003 13:27 GMT
What a load of bollocks.

All scuba regulators fittings (except the so called lightweight or
ultralight models  which are made from Aluminium or titanium) are suitable
for EAN up to 40%, although it is preferable to ensure that they have been
properly cleaned and the only lubricants used are O2 compatible, such as
Crystalube or, as I use, OxyLube from Lawrence Factor in Miami (part number
CL-581002-PT)

All standard regs (except the Aluminium or Titanium ones) are made of chrome
plated brass, exactly the same material used for all high pressure O2
fittings.

The only other factor is that you will need to service your regs regularly,
at least once per year, as O rings will harden and  become brittle with
constant exposure to high pressure O2.

> >>I just purchased a new Sherwood Avid BC with a Blizzard Reg and Octopus. I
> >>have approx 4 dives on this equipment and am now considering taking a
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>
>    BR, Marcin
Jim.Greenlee@cc.gatech.edu - 19 Aug 2003 13:50 GMT
Marcin.Dobrucki@FAKE.nokia.com stopped playing nethack just long enough to say:

>Some BCD's require some kind of conversion to be used with Nitrox
>mixes above 21%.

Rubbish. Name one BC that requires this.

>The same goes for regulators.  They can be used, but some gaskets/etc
>might need to be changed.

Marketing/CYA hype.

Marcin, I am beginning to believe that you are a troll. Do you
actually even dive?

-JimG

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Marcin Dobrucki - 19 Aug 2003 15:18 GMT
> Marcin.Dobrucki@FAKE.nokia.com stopped playing nethack just long enough to say:
>
>>Some BCD's require some kind of conversion to be used with Nitrox
>>mixes above 21%.
>
> Rubbish. Name one BC that requires this.

  Well, that's what my instruction manual said.  "for air only", with
conversion kit up to "40%", and never above 40%.  Perhaps I am a victim
of marketing.

>>The same goes for regulators.  They can be used, but some gaskets/etc
>>might need to be changed.
>
> Marketing/CYA hype.

  Ok.

> Marcin, I am beginning to believe that you are a troll. Do you
> actually even dive?

  Yes, albeit not as much as I would like to.  Going again tomorrow.
Its going to be cold, but looking forward to it.

  Sorry about sounding trollish -- not my intention.  I just really
like to know.

  /Marcin
Jammer Six - 19 Aug 2003 19:00 GMT
>    Well, that's what my instruction manual said.  "for air only",
> with conversion kit up to "40%", and never above 40%.  Perhaps I am a
> victim of marketing.

Oh, no, you're right.

You need a BC for air, you need a BC for 21-30%, another for 30-35%,
and then 35-40%.

You have to have wings and a backplate for anything above 40%.

Greenlee knows all this.

He's just yanking your chain because you're so new.

The best thing to do is to not let him get away with it, and fight
back, every time. Otherwise, he'll do it every time you post here.

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Jason O'Rourke - 19 Aug 2003 20:09 GMT
>> The BC doesn't matter.
>
>   Oh yes it matters.  Please see your manufacturer's specific
>instructions.  Some BCD's require some kind of conversion to be used
>with Nitrox mixes above 21%.  The same goes for regulators.  They can be
>used, but some gaskets/etc might need to be changed.

And when you're done with that conversion, get back to me and I'll
setup you up with a nitrox cerified snorkel.  
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Bob Rowlette - 20 Aug 2003 16:14 GMT
Don't forget the oxygen clean snorkel.

-bob

>>>I just purchased a new Sherwood Avid BC with a Blizzard Reg and Octopus. I
>>>have approx 4 dives on this equipment and am now considering taking a
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>
>   BR, Marcin
Jammer Six - 19 Aug 2003 06:19 GMT
> I just purchased a new Sherwood Avid BC with a Blizzard Reg and Octopus. I
> have approx 4 dives on this equipment and am now considering taking a Nitrox
> course. Can I use this equipment with the Nitrox or will I need a different
> Regulator? Thanks

We need to see you coming. Mark your regs with green and yellow.

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Jeff - 19 Aug 2003 14:37 GMT
I hope this was a black & white issue but it seems their are arguments in
both directions.

> I just purchased a new Sherwood Avid BC with a Blizzard Reg and Octopus. I
> have approx 4 dives on this equipment and am now considering taking a Nitrox
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Jason O'Rourke - 19 Aug 2003 20:11 GMT
>I hope this was a black & white issue but it seems their are arguments in
>both directions.

No, it's is black & white.  You'll notice there is essentially one
confused person on the other side of the fence.  

For recreational nitrox, you don't need to worry about any piece of
gear besides the tank.  (Some would argue the tank shouldn't be a problem
either, but in dealing with shops that's generally not the case)
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Marcin Dobrucki - 20 Aug 2003 07:11 GMT
>>I hope this was a black & white issue but it seems their are arguments in
>>both directions.
>
> No, it's is black & white.  You'll notice there is essentially one
> confused person on the other side of the fence.  

  /me waves frantically

  Yes, but he seeks knowledge, and hopes to get wiser...

  Marcin
Mad Dog Hog - 23 Aug 2003 21:03 GMT
>    /me waves frantically
>
>    Yes, but he seeks knowledge, and hopes to get wiser...
>
>    Marcin

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