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Reefmaster 3.3 mp digital camera DC310

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chuck - 18 Oct 2004 19:03 GMT
Has anyone used this camera and if so any comments please.
Dan Bracuk - 19 Oct 2004 00:20 GMT
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:Has anyone used this camera and if so any comments please.

I own the now discontinued 1.3 mp version, and I think it's great.
Anything marked new, and a lot of other photos on this page,
http://www.pathcom.com/~bracuk/underwater/index.htm were taken with
that camera.

Redeeming qualities include simplicity of operation, low cost, and the
extremely low maintenance requirement.  Last trip, I was the only
photog who didn't have to clean o-rings.

Unredeeming quality, does not play nice in low light.  That means it's
a poor land camera.

Dan Bracuk
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nitespark - 19 Oct 2004 00:52 GMT
> "chuck" <cpeterson31@cox.net> pounded away at his keyboard resulting
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> Unredeeming quality, does not play nice in low light.  That means it's
> a poor land camera.

Dan,
My DC310 does OK on land.  The on board strobe is OK for 4-5 ft but
beyond that, in low light it is lacking.  Not sure about your model, but
mine has a number of menu settings for different lighting conditions.

andy

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Dan Bracuk - 19 Oct 2004 02:45 GMT
nitespark <nitespark@cox.net> pounded away at his keyboard resulting
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:My DC310 does OK on land.  The on board strobe is OK for 4-5 ft but
:beyond that, in low light it is lacking.  Not sure about your model, but
:mine has a number of menu settings for different lighting conditions.

Miy DC 200 does not do ok in low light on land, but, since it's a
discontinued model, that information is only relevent for those who
want to by a used one.

I used to consider my camera to require a lot of ambient light
underwater as well.  You know, shallow water, sunny day, etc.  But
then I took these two shots:

http://www.pathcom.com/~bracuk/underwater/Grouper2.htm
http://www.pathcom.com/~bracuk/underwater/Shark.htm

Both were taken at ~70 ft.  The shark was at least 10 ft away.  Not
sure about the bass, I never saw him in the water, just in the
picture.  The face of the grouper was about 3 ft from me, and it was
at least 4 ft long.

While a better camera and strobe would have given better results,
these were better than I thought I could get with the camera I have.

Dan Bracuk
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The Best of rec.scuba http://www.pathcom.com/~bracuk/RecScuba/
nitespark - 19 Oct 2004 12:40 GMT
> nitespark <nitespark@cox.net> pounded away at his keyboard resulting
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> underwater as well.  You know, shallow water, sunny day, etc.  But
> then I took these two shots:

I am still getting used to mine, but am getting better pictures (not as
good as yours :)  )

It looks that on the bass and shark pic, you were using the internal
flash?

I thought they both turned out great.

I had mine in Cozumel this year and got some grouper but they really
didn't want to cooperate with a picture.  Every time I would try and get
a frontal shot, they would turn.  Fighting the current in Coz, trying to
frame your shot, and getting the fish to cooperate just sometimes
doesn't work.

> http://www.pathcom.com/~bracuk/underwater/Grouper2.htm
> http://www.pathcom.com/~bracuk/underwater/Shark.htm
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> While a better camera and strobe would have given better results,
> these were better than I thought I could get with the camera I have.

Both look great in my un-professional opinion.

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Dan Bracuk - 20 Oct 2004 00:02 GMT
nitespark <nitespark@cox.net> pounded away at his keyboard resulting
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:It looks that on the bass and shark pic, you were using the internal
:flash?

Only to fire the external one.  Using that camera without an external
strobe is a waste of batteries.

Dan Bracuk
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The Best of rec.scuba http://www.pathcom.com/~bracuk/RecScuba/
nitespark - 19 Oct 2004 00:49 GMT
> Has anyone used this camera and if so any comments please.

I have one and have gotten good results with it.  I use the external
strobe and have 3 macro lenses for it.

Sor far, I am happy with it.  However, on a recent trip to Cozumel,
another diver in our group had the same camera and for some reason it
flooded.  Havn't heard what happened after that.

Have used it as a land camera also with good results.

Andy

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Bcit66 - 24 Oct 2004 04:29 GMT
Good Day

 I have one, got some good result with it, it is a great starter camera
since its a point and shoot. I got 3 macro lenses and the wide angle. In
order to get good picture I use two strobe, I started with one and it was Ok
but since I started to use two the result are much better.
> Has anyone used this camera and if so any comments please.
nitespark - 24 Oct 2004 13:39 GMT
> Good Day
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>>Has anyone used this camera and if so any comments please.

Sounds like you really jumped into that system.  Not only did you buy
the camera but just about all the accessories.

A suggestion.  Make certain you use the dissicants inside the camera
housing.  I am told if you do not, your warranty will not be honored.  I
don't know how they could tell, but perhaps they can somehow.

Also, I would suggest, if at all possible, NOT opening the underwater
housing on the dive boat or any place where there is high humidity.
Unless you are on a liveaboard, wait until you get back to your hotel
room where it is air conditioned.  When dealing with the intricate
electronics of a digital camera, humidity and moisture are NOT your friend.

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Jer - 24 Oct 2004 19:25 GMT
> Sounds like you really jumped into that system.  Not only did you buy
> the camera but just about all the accessories.
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> room where it is air conditioned.  When dealing with the intricate
> electronics of a digital camera, humidity and moisture are NOT your friend.

I believe this is one of the distinct advantages of housed digital.
Starting the day with a fresh battery pack and an huge, empty CF card,
one shouldn't have to open anything until it's safe to do so.

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nitespark - 24 Oct 2004 19:50 GMT
>> Sounds like you really jumped into that system.  Not only did you buy
>> the camera but just about all the accessories.
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> Starting the day with a fresh battery pack and an huge, empty CF card,
> one shouldn't have to open anything until it's safe to do so.

I agree, but sometimes it is SO tempting to open the housing and review
some of the pictures without looking through the housing window.  I
have, on a few occasions, had to switch batteries, even after starting
with a new, recently charged set.

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Dan Bracuk - 25 Oct 2004 00:55 GMT
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:I agree, but sometimes it is SO tempting to open the housing and review
:some of the pictures without looking through the housing window.  I
:have, on a few occasions, had to switch batteries, even after starting
:with a new, recently charged set.

Sounds more like a choice than a "had to" to me.

If you don't use dessicant, a number of things help you get two dives
out of a set of batteries.  Assume you can get 100 shutter releases
out per set.  If you take them too fast, the housing will fog up.
Plus, you won't have enough juice for your second dive.

Pay attention, and pace yourself.  

Dan Bracuk
Is it my imagination, or do Buffalo Wings taste like chicken?
The Best of rec.scuba http://www.pathcom.com/~bracuk/RecScuba/
nitespark - 25 Oct 2004 01:33 GMT
> nitespark <nitespark@cox.net> pounded away at his keyboard resulting
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> Pay attention, and pace yourself.  

This was when the camera was still quite new to me.  We were at
Homosassa Springs, Fla., playing with the manatees and I kept it "on"
most of the time.  When we were with the manatees, we were free diving,
and didn't have the built in time constraints of scuba, so we were  in
the water for several hours.

I got the DC310 as a Christmas gift last year.  Dove with it in the Fla
Keys in January and then again at Ginnie Springs, Rainbow River,
Homosassa Springs, and Blue Grotto in February.

Now I let the camera go into "sleep" mode which helps immensely on
battery life.  When I was on Coz in June, I never had a problem with
battery life and that was using it two dives back to back.  I would
switch out the batteries once I got back to my resort room.

I had been used to a Sony Mavica with the lithium battery which lasts
MUCH longer than the NiMH batteries in my ReefMaster.

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Dan Bracuk - 25 Oct 2004 00:56 GMT
Jer <gdunn@airmail.ten> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in:
:I believe this is one of the distinct advantages of housed digital.

I believe that is what we have been talking about the entire thread.

Dan Bracuk
Is it my imagination, or do Buffalo Wings taste like chicken?
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Jer - 25 Oct 2004 04:58 GMT
> Jer <gdunn@airmail.ten> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in:
> :I believe this is one of the distinct advantages of housed digital.
>
> I believe that is what we have been talking about the entire thread.

No, actually not.  My post was specifically relevant to fresh batteries
(mentioned by another) and image store capacity (which has yet to be
mentioned by another) - and which you conveniently snipped.

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Jason O'Rourke - 25 Oct 2004 09:42 GMT
>I believe this is one of the distinct advantages of housed digital.
>Starting the day with a fresh battery pack and an huge, empty CF card,
>one shouldn't have to open anything until it's safe to do so.

A digital SLR would have this advantage.  But the smaller guys, you can get most
of two dives in before it goes, short of turning off the video.  Do that, though,
and you have the issues of shooting blind or waiting for it to come back.  

Still, given the choice of 70 working minutes and ~120 shots off my canon S400,
and what I had before with the A35, it's a no brainer.  
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Brian Combs - 25 Oct 2004 03:28 GMT
I really like the 310.  I did find that the lithium batteries last a long
time as opposed to any others.  You also don't have to do a review and that
will save a lot of battery time as well.  Of course if you forget to turn it
on that saves a lot of battery time as well ;-) a friend got it in to the
review mode with he 300 and had to go back to the boat to turn it to the
picture mode.

Brian
Dan Bracuk - 26 Oct 2004 03:55 GMT
"Brian Combs" <bcombs@harbornet.com> pounded away at his keyboard
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:I really like the 310.  I did find that the lithium batteries last a long
:time as opposed to any others.  You also don't have to do a review and that
:will save a lot of battery time as well.  Of course if you forget to turn it
:on that saves a lot of battery time as well ;-) a friend got it in to the
:review mode with he 300 and had to go back to the boat to turn it to the
:picture mode.

And I thought I was the only person to ever do that.  Guess I wasn't.

Dan Bracuk
Is it my imagination, or do Buffalo Wings taste like chicken?
The Best of rec.scuba http://www.pathcom.com/~bracuk/RecScuba/
chuck - 26 Oct 2004 17:40 GMT
Thank you for all the help
I ordered it today and will have it in 3 or 4 days. Taking it to Cozumel in
December we will know whats up by then.
> Has anyone used this camera and if so any comments please.
Dan Bracuk - 26 Oct 2004 23:21 GMT
"chuck" <cpeterson31@cox.net> pounded away at his keyboard resulting
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:Thank you for all the help
:I ordered it today and will have it in 3 or 4 days. Taking it to Cozumel in
:December we will know whats up by then.

Could you be a little more specific?  I will be at Iberostar from the
11th to the 18th.  Maybe we can get together for a brewskie.

Dan Bracuk
Is it my imagination, or do Buffalo Wings taste like chicken?
The Best of rec.scuba http://www.pathcom.com/~bracuk/RecScuba/
chuck - 01 Nov 2004 16:17 GMT
I will be arriving Dec. 6 and leaving Dec. 10th Damn it would have been
great to meet and shoot the breeze

chuck
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nitespark - 27 Oct 2004 00:28 GMT
> Thank you for all the help
> I ordered it today and will have it in 3 or 4 days. Taking it to Cozumel in
> December we will know whats up by then.
>
>>Has anyone used this camera and if so any comments please.

Where are you staying at Coz???

If you are up to a more advanced dive, I would heartily recommend Punta
Sur, Devils Throat.  I was there in June and that was undoubtedly the
best dive of our trip.

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