> wow.. what a nice way for someone, who I am assuming is a diver, to welcome
> someone to the sport/hobby. Excuse me for my ignorance, but that doesn't
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> your doing a fine job as an ambassador to the sport, keep up the good work,
> troll.
Clap, clap, clap.
Great post.
Brian
Edmonton, Alberta
www.mossmanscuba.com
> > wow.. what a nice way for someone, who I am assuming is a diver, to welcome
> > someone to the sport/hobby. Excuse me for my ignorance, but that doesn't
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> Alan
Alan Street - 17 Sep 2004 20:40 GMT
> Clap, clap, clap.
>
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> Edmonton, Alberta
> www.mossmanscuba.com
Thank you, sir. Coming from you, it's a high compliment.
Alan
> > > wow.. what a nice way for someone, who I am assuming is a diver, to
> > welcome
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> >
> > Alan
> ? wow.. what a nice way for someone, who I am assuming is a diver, to
> welcome
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>
> Alan
Well let me start with this
troll
v.,n. 1. [From the Usenet group alt.folklore.urban] To
utter a posting on Usenet designed to attract predictable
responses or flames; or, the post itself. Derives from the phrase
"trolling for newbies" which in turn comes from mainstream
"trolling", a style of fishing in which one trails bait through a
likely spot hoping for a bite.
Which as far as I am concerned was your intent on the original post. I might
be a newbie to diving, but I am far from being a newbie to the internet.
In answer to your question, no I have not bought a BCD yet. I was asking for
information on this particular model because I can get an exceptional price
on it brand new.Our divemaster/instructor thought it might be a good unit
for me considering my height and weight. I am trying to gather some
information on equipment and make an educated decision on gear that I don't
want to have to replace in 6 months because it is not what I wanted. I don't
want anyone to boost my ego and I don't like making rash decisions on
equipment that I will entrust with my life. I, like everyone I guess, like
to get the most bang for my buck. I don't mind spending the money I need to
use, but cant see myself throwing it away needlessly.
That being said, I am here to learn. I am doing my open waters next weekend,
and will likely use an other rental of a different make and model. Hoping to
try a zeagle ranger with back inflate to see if its what I like.
And lastly, my intent is to try and get as much diving in as possible. Just
the pool dives are awesome and I cant wait to see what the oceans off Nova
Scotia have to offer. I already have plans made to do my advanced course in
the spring and see what happens from there. my goal is to do some wreck
diving in our area.
cheers
Eric
Brian Nadwidny - 17 Sep 2004 22:49 GMT
> In answer to your question, no I have not bought a BCD yet. I was asking for
> information on this particular model because I can get an exceptional price
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> to get the most bang for my buck. I don't mind spending the money I need to
> use, but cant see myself throwing it away needlessly.
Then don't buy the Rig and don't listen to that particular shop monkey.
Any shop monkey that recommends the rig doesn't have a clue.
> That being said, I am here to learn. I am doing my open waters next weekend,
> and will likely use an other rental of a different make and model. Hoping to
> try a zeagle ranger with back inflate to see if its what I like.
Ooh boy.
> And lastly, my intent is to try and get as much diving in as possible. Just
> the pool dives are awesome and I cant wait to see what the oceans off Nova
> Scotia have to offer.
Ah...NS. That would explain the advice.
> I already have plans made to do my advanced course in
> the spring and see what happens from there. my goal is to do some wreck
> diving in our area.
f.ck the courses. There is a club in Halifax called the Aqualantics.
Look them up and go diving.
Brian
Edmonton, Alberta
Rudy Benner - 18 Sep 2004 00:07 GMT
> Well let me start with this
> troll
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>
> Eric
Skip the Zeagle Ranger, get the BP/Wing setup instead. I have already posted
the details of how to assemble one in a previous posting, or you can buy one
at an inflated price from Halcyon, or DiveRite or OMS.
Or you can buy my well used Ranger, sized for a big fellow. Make me an offer
in Kanukistan Dollars.
R.
Alan Street - 18 Sep 2004 04:28 GMT
> > Troll?
> >
> > I have to smile when newbies learn a new word and almost use it
> > correctly. It restores my faith in Microsoft's ability to bring the
> > Internet to people who would otherwise be debating the merits of
> > Britney Spears vs. Christina Aguilera.
<snip>
> Well let me start with this
> troll
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> Which as far as I am concerned was your intent on the original post. I might
> be a newbie to diving, but I am far from being a newbie to the internet.
Well, I noticed you stopped top posting, so maybe some of that
experience is coming back.
But no, I'm definately not a troll. My first response to you was
brutally honest and the second was insulting (but somewhat clever and
with some good advice thrown in). Flame bait, perhaps, but since the
newbie had already identified himself, there was nothing to troll for
;-).
As for diving -
A. Welcome to the sport. Keep at it and you'll have a blast
B. Welcome to rec.scuba. Stick around and you'll be a jaded bastard in
no time (slightly longer if you just stick to r.s.e & r.s.l).
C. Listen to Brian. He's forgotten more about recreational and
technical diving than 99% of the shop monkeys you're likely to meet,
especially at first.
Alan
TonyP - 18 Sep 2004 21:05 GMT
> In answer to your question, no I have not bought a BCD yet. I was asking for
> information on this particular model because I can get an exceptional price
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> to get the most bang for my buck. I don't mind spending the money I need to
> use, but cant see myself throwing it away needlessly.
I bought a SeaQuest Infinity BCD when I first started diving here in the
NY/LI/NJ area. I dove with that BCD for 5 years. It served me well as a
single tank w/pony attached. But, even with a steel 120 attached, I
wanted more bottom time. Went to backplate and wings and doubles. I can
configure it for any type of diving (including single tank). The cost
was slightly more than the Infinity BCD. But, I enjoyed diving with the
BCD. I still have it and take it to those warm water places that dive
single 80's. It works great. If I were doing it over again, I would have
spent the few extra dollars and gone backplate and wings. But then, I
didn't know any better, and the dive shop has to sell you something. The
shop also doesn't know if you are ever going to stick with diving. I did.
> That being said, I am here to learn. I am doing my open waters next weekend,
> and will likely use an other rental of a different make and model. Hoping to
> try a zeagle ranger with back inflate to see if its what I like.
Never dove the ranger. There are those that love it, those that hate it.
If you are ever thinking of diving doubles and slings in the future, get
a backplate and wings. Scott Koplin can hook you right up with quality
equipment that will last you the rest of your diving career.
> And lastly, my intent is to try and get as much diving in as possible. Just
> the pool dives are awesome and I cant wait to see what the oceans off Nova
> Scotia have to offer. I already have plans made to do my advanced course in
> the spring and see what happens from there. my goal is to do some wreck
> diving in our area.
Good for you. And diving in the environment where you live, I am sure
that doubles are almost a way of life. The mass merchandise BCDs (even
the techie looking ones) won't fit the bill, no matter how much the
store tries to sell you on them.
Backplate and wings. You won't go wrong.
I've been without usenet access for a few months and this is one of the
first posts I read upon re-acquiring service. Makes me realize what I
missed. Damn fine post!
Laser
Alan Street - 16 Oct 2004 01:56 GMT
> I've been without usenet access for a few months and this is one of the
> first posts I read upon re-acquiring service. Makes me realize what I
> missed. Damn fine post!
>
> Laser
Thanks, Tim. Welcome back!