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dechucka - 03 Mar 2008 01:31 GMT
I just relaminated a c-card replaced in 1990 ( after losing the original ).
Do people still have their original c-cards and does anyone like me use a
very old one to dive with when ID is necessary ( quite a few " is this card
for real looks " from the young'uns)?
ScubaZine - 03 Mar 2008 01:43 GMT
> I just relaminated a c-card replaced in 1990 ( after losing the original ).
> Do people still have their original c-cards and does anyone like me use a
> very old one to dive with when ID is necessary ( quite a few " is this card
> for real looks " from the young'uns)?

Mine is currently dated 06/06/96 and is a NASDS Advance Diver Card
issued by Southern Tasmanian Divers. If memory serves Jak Denny was the
instructor. It contains the picture from my original Basic Divers FAUI
CARD from 1986 I have hair in it which I don't have now.

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dechucka - 03 Mar 2008 02:07 GMT
>> I just relaminated a c-card replaced in 1990 ( after losing the
>> original ). Do people still have their original c-cards and does anyone
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> instructor. It contains the picture from my original Basic Divers FAUI
> CARD from 1986 I have hair in it which I don't have now.

Not bad but mine is a 1990 ORIGINAL PADI Advance Diver replacement card.
Been using it ever since.
Don Gingrich - 03 Mar 2008 10:57 GMT
>>> I just relaminated a c-card replaced in 1990 ( after losing the
>>> original ). Do people still have their original c-cards and does
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> Not bad but mine is a 1990 ORIGINAL PADI Advance Diver replacement
> card. Been using it ever since.

I've got a YMCA card from 1971 if I could find it. I'm sure it's in
my belongings *somewhere*. I remember seeing it when I was in a flat
just after I left my first wife in 2003. Of course, it doesn't have a
photo of any sort, so I'd probably have a problem with using it. I
remember talking to people here in Melbourne (Vic, not FL) not long
after I arrived. No one wanted to know about a YMCA cert.

-Don
dechucka - 04 Mar 2008 03:47 GMT
>>>> I just relaminated a c-card replaced in 1990 ( after losing the
>>>> original ). Do people still have their original c-cards and does
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> remember talking to people here in Melbourne (Vic, not FL) not long
> after I arrived. No one wanted to know about a YMCA cert.

Nobody In Australia wanted to know about my DAA ( Diving Academy of
Australia ) card either but it let me dive around Asia and America in the
late 70s early 80s. Iirc my mate and I didn't do a bad job of  faking the
card up had a photo and everything, laminated using the Student Councils
laminator. Didn't need a card here in Aus as had our own gear and access to
free air but o/s they were picky about hiring tanks etc without a c card.
Haven't seen it for years unfortunately.
Dan Bracuk - 03 Mar 2008 02:28 GMT
"dechucka" <dechucka@vomithotmail.com> pounded away at his keyboard
resulting in:

:I just relaminated a c-card replaced in 1990 ( after losing the original ).
:Do people still have their original c-cards and does anyone like me use a
:very old one to dive with when ID is necessary ( quite a few " is this card
:for real looks " from the young'uns)?

I have an ACUC Scuba Diver card from 1986.  It's the one I always
present.

Most people have never heard of ACUC, so that's ok, a card's a card.

On my last trip, the girl at the dive shop knew that ACUC had renamed
their certs to be the same as PADI's, meaning that Scuba Diver was
below OW1.  Still didn't matter, I got my dives in.

I think there are cards on this ng old enough to be that ones daddy
though.

Dan Bracuk
Never use a big word when a diminutive one will do.
dechucka - 03 Mar 2008 03:35 GMT
> "dechucka" <dechucka@vomithotmail.com> pounded away at his keyboard
> resulting in:
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> I think there are cards on this ng old enough to be that ones daddy
> though.

intersected in them. However it has to be the original card, not a
replacement
Dan Bracuk - 03 Mar 2008 03:53 GMT
"dechucka" <dechucka@vomithotmail.com> pounded away at his keyboard
resulting in:

:intersected in them. However it has to be the original card, not a
:replacement

What makes you think it isn't?

Dan Bracuk
Never use a big word when a diminutive one will do.
dechucka - 03 Mar 2008 04:03 GMT
> "dechucka" <dechucka@vomithotmail.com> pounded away at his keyboard
> resulting in:
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> What makes you think it isn't?

sorry think I misread your post the 1st time for some reason  :-(
Dillon Pyron - 03 Mar 2008 04:09 GMT
[Default] Thus spake Dan Bracuk <bracuk@pathcom.com>:

>"dechucka" <dechucka@vomithotmail.com> pounded away at his keyboard
>resulting in:
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>Dan Bracuk
>Never use a big word when a diminutive one will do.

Slackers.  1984 PADI OW.  Although depending on my wants and needs, I
usually pull out my PADI Rescue or my OWSI.
dechucka - 03 Mar 2008 04:11 GMT
> [Default] Thus spake Dan Bracuk <bracuk@pathcom.com>:
>
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> Slackers.  1984 PADI OW.  Although depending on my wants and needs, I
> usually pull out my PADI Rescue or my OWSI.

that is great
Boiler_81 - 04 Mar 2008 03:12 GMT
Same for me PADI OW 1984. Sometimes it just gets a glance and other
times it gets an antique comment. For some reason the guy in the picture
looks much younger than me.

> [Default] Thus spake Dan Bracuk <bracuk@pathcom.com>:
>
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
> Slackers.  1984 PADI OW.  Although depending on my wants and needs, I
> usually pull out my PADI Rescue or my OWSI.
-hh - 04 Mar 2008 10:46 GMT
> Same for me PADI OW 1984. Sometimes it just gets a glance and
> other times it gets an antique comment. For some reason the guy
> in the picture looks much younger than me.

I can recall a "discussion" with a staffer at Dutch Springs, PA while
signing their huge waiver a few years ago; the kid in the registration
booth thought my card was fake because it didn't have a photo, plus he
was
having problems finding my SSN# on my C-Card (he should, since its not
on there) and then essentially accused me of having a forged C-Card
because it was absent.  I told him to check the date on the Card ...
and as he did, I said, "What year were you born, son?".

Seemed to have cleared the whole paperwork problem right up :-)

And a 1984 PADI C-Card that included a photo?   I hadn't realized that
PADI had started to add pictures that early.  Guess it helps explain
the kid's reaction above...

-hh
JRE - 04 Mar 2008 23:22 GMT
>> Same for me PADI OW 1984. Sometimes it just gets a glance and
>> other times it gets an antique comment. For some reason the guy
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
> -hh

They took my no-photo 1972 YMCA card with no trouble or comment (not
even a Hey! Get a load of *this*!).

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John Eells

Dillon Pyron - 09 Mar 2008 22:19 GMT
[Default] Thus spake Boiler_81 <boiler77_81@yahoo.com>:

>Same for me PADI OW 1984. Sometimes it just gets a glance and other
>times it gets an antique comment. For some reason the guy in the picture
>looks much younger than me.

I was looking at my old passports yesterday.  My 1981 one has some
punk in some butt ugly glasses and a doofus looking "haircut" with a
part in the middle!!!

>> [Default] Thus spake Dan Bracuk <bracuk@pathcom.com>:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
>> Slackers.  1984 PADI OW.  Although depending on my wants and needs, I
>> usually pull out my PADI Rescue or my OWSI.
Scott - 09 Mar 2008 22:37 GMT
> I was looking at my old passports yesterday.  My 1981 one has some
> punk in some butt ugly glasses and a doofus looking "haircut" with a
> part in the middle!!!

BCG's?
Grumman-581 - 10 Mar 2008 03:09 GMT
> I was looking at my old passports yesterday.  My 1981 one has some punk in
> some butt ugly glasses and a doofus looking "haircut" with a part in the
> middle!!!

Look at in on the bright side... At least you had enough hair o part... In
1981, I only had slightly more to part than I do now... Not that a 1/16 of
an inch made much of a difference...

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Dillon Pyron - 11 Mar 2008 20:16 GMT
[Default] Thus spake Grumman-581 <grumman581-usenet-2008@spambob.net>:

>> I was looking at my old passports yesterday.  My 1981 one has some punk in
>> some butt ugly glasses and a doofus looking "haircut" with a part in the
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>1981, I only had slightly more to part than I do now... Not that a 1/16 of
>an inch made much of a difference...

My b-i-l's picture from his 16 birthday shows his hairline about even
with his ears.  He currently has a fringe, and a que (braided) below
his shoulder blades.

Carol's hair is a brilliant blonde in the picture.  If you go to our
website (www.pyron.org) and click on the cruise link, you'll see the
current color.  Her DL expired just about the time she finished chemo,
so she wore her wig.  Which was also blonde.  She is definitely a
brunette, now.  But some of the women at the BCRC said it might come
back gray.
Grumman-581 - 03 Mar 2008 02:28 GMT
> I just relaminated a c-card replaced in 1990 ( after losing the original
> ). Do people still have their original c-cards and does anyone like me
> use a very old one to dive with when ID is necessary ( quite a few " is
> this card for real looks " from the young'uns)?

Leee still has his original card... He definitely gets strange looks when
he tries to use it... YMCA 1969 or so, IIRC...

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dechucka - 03 Mar 2008 03:36 GMT
>> I just relaminated a c-card replaced in 1990 ( after losing the original
>> ). Do people still have their original c-cards and does anyone like me
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Leee still has his original card... He definitely gets strange looks when
> he tries to use it... YMCA 1969 or so, IIRC...

cool with lots of "oooooo"s
dechucka - 03 Mar 2008 03:37 GMT
>>> I just relaminated a c-card replaced in 1990 ( after losing the original
>>> ). Do people still have their original c-cards and does anyone like me
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> cool with lots of "oooooo"s

btw was that laminated or what?
Lee Bell - 03 Mar 2008 11:34 GMT
> Lee still has his original card... He definitely gets strange looks when
> he tries to use it... YMCA 1969 or so, IIRC...

NAUI, but you got the year right. I was first trained by YMCA in 1962, but
no card was issued. My first card, which I still have, and, sometimes still
show, was issued in 1969. It says I'm certified for SCUBA.

Lee
JRE - 03 Mar 2008 12:01 GMT
>> Lee still has his original card... He definitely gets strange looks when
>> he tries to use it... YMCA 1969 or so, IIRC...
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Lee

Ten years later, by 1972 (the date on my original card), the YMCA gave
out cards.  They were likewise SCUBA certifications, and more-advanced
training did not, so far as I know, exist.

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Hoges in WA - 03 Mar 2008 03:54 GMT
>I just relaminated a c-card replaced in 1990 ( after losing the original ).
>Do people still have their original c-cards and does anyone like me use a
>very old one to dive with when ID is necessary ( quite a few " is this card
>for real looks " from the young'uns)?

Mine is original unlaminated with a bit of the bottom missing (breaking up)

It is dated 1/80 and is numbered A0541 of the National Qualification System.

I used it yesterday, though I leave it inside the plastic sleeve of the NGQ
passbook thing that holds my log and qualification register.

Now that you have mentioned laminating, I think I'll get mine done tomorrow
(we have a laminator in the office)

Hoges in WA
dechucka - 03 Mar 2008 04:04 GMT
>>I just relaminated a c-card replaced in 1990 ( after losing the
>>original ). Do people still have their original c-cards and does anyone
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> Hoges in WA

NGQ?
Hoges in WA - 03 Mar 2008 06:50 GMT
>>>I just relaminated a c-card replaced in 1990 ( after losing the
>>>original ). Do people still have their original c-cards and does anyone
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
> NGQ?

Headache, sore shoulder, two Neurofen+.

I meant NQS.  Don't know where the other thing came from.
Chuck - 03 Mar 2008 06:22 GMT
PADI Open Water 1983

I've since gotten different cert's but still have the original.

~Chuck

>I just relaminated a c-card replaced in 1990 ( after losing the original ).
>Do people still have their original c-cards and does anyone like me use a
>very old one to dive with when ID is necessary ( quite a few " is this card
>for real looks " from the young'uns)?
dechucka - 03 Mar 2008 06:24 GMT
> PADI Open Water 1983
>
> I've since gotten different cert's but still have the original.

bugger older qualification but don't have the card. That is awesome, 25
years?
Grumman-581 - 03 Mar 2008 07:07 GMT
> I just relaminated a c-card replaced in 1990 ( after losing the original
> ). Do people still have their original c-cards and does anyone like me
> use a very old one to dive with when ID is necessary ( quite a few " is
> this card for real looks " from the young'uns)?

Does this count?

http://grumman581.googlepages.com/scuba-cert-dti.jpg

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janusz_w@hotmail.com - 03 Mar 2008 09:29 GMT
On 3 Mar, 08:07, Grumman-581 <grumman581-usenet-2...@spambob.net>
wrote:
> > I just relaminated a c-card replaced in 1990 ( after losing the original
> > ). Do people still have their original c-cards and does anyone like me
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> http://grumman581.googlepages.com/scuba-cert-dti.jpg

No - it's a fake (Texas flag is upside down) ;-)

Janusz
Grumman-581 - 03 Mar 2008 09:59 GMT
> No - it's a fake (Texas flag is upside down) ;-)

Good catch... Especially for an Aussie... I'm not so sure that I would
have caught any slight slip-up with an Aussie flag...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c0/Flag_of_Australia_template.svg

One of these days, I might just have to print up that DTI card,
laminate it, and see if anyone catches it... If they actually read the
text, they should get a pretty good hint that it would be fake, but
considering some of the guys I've seen working in the shops over the
years, it might just fly...

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janusz_w@hotmail.com - 03 Mar 2008 10:16 GMT
On 3 Mar, 10:59, Grumman-581 <grumman581-usenet-2...@spambob.net>
wrote:
> > No - it's a fake (Texas flag is upside down) ;-)
>
> Good catch... Especially for an Aussie... I'm not so sure that I would
> have caught any slight slip-up with an Aussie flag...

Sorry to disappoint you, but I'm not an Aussie.

> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c0/Flag_of_Australia_...
>
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> considering some of the guys I've seen working in the shops over the
> years, it might just fly...

It's possible.

Janusz
Grumman-581 - 03 Mar 2008 10:31 GMT
> Sorry to disappoint you, but I'm not an Aussie.

Ooops... I wasn't paying attention and thought it was dechucka replying...
Damn, I think I need to get some sleep...

You're from Poland, right?

Pretty simple flag to draw... Turn it upside down and you have the flag of
Monaco...

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janusz_w@hotmail.com - 03 Mar 2008 10:55 GMT
On 3 Mar, 11:31, Grumman-581 <grumman581-usenet-2...@spambob.net>
wrote:
> > Sorry to disappoint you, but I'm not an Aussie.
>
> Ooops... I wasn't paying attention and thought it was dechucka replying...
> Damn, I think I need to get some sleep...
Sleep? It's almost noon

> You're from Poland, right?
AFAIK

> Pretty simple flag to draw... Turn it upside down and you have the flag of
> Monaco...
Depends on version. The one with coats of arms is not so easy to draw.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Poland

Janusz
Grumman-581 - 03 Mar 2008 11:20 GMT
> Depends on version. The one with coats of arms is not so easy to draw.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Poland

Yeah, that one would be a bitch to draw from just a text description...

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mat.voss - 03 Mar 2008 11:51 GMT
>>Sorry to disappoint you, but I'm not an Aussie.
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Pretty simple flag to draw... Turn it upside down and you have the flag of
> Monaco...

Chopin was probably not the first to make that mistake ;-)

Matthias
janusz_w@hotmail.com - 03 Mar 2008 18:49 GMT
> >>Sorry to disappoint you, but I'm not an Aussie.
>
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>
> Chopin was probably not the first to make that mistake ;-)

Really?

Janusz
mat.voss - 03 Mar 2008 21:11 GMT
>>>>Sorry to disappoint you, but I'm not an Aussie.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> Really?

Well when he saw the flag upside down, he shifted over to Mallorca ;-)

Matthias
janusz_w@hotmail.com - 04 Mar 2008 06:08 GMT
> janus...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
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>
> Matthias

Really funny. I expected from you something more intelligent, but it
seems that education in Germany is reaching American level. Tip of the
day - the flag was adpoted in 1919. Chopin lived 1810-1849.

Janusz
mat.voss - 04 Mar 2008 10:26 GMT
>>janus...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> seems that education in Germany is reaching American level. Tip of the
> day - the flag was adpoted in 1919. Chopin lived 1810-1849.

'Twas just to check your attention.
We know that Poland tends to change its flag and sovereignty from time
to time.

Matthias
janusz_w@hotmail.com - 04 Mar 2008 21:08 GMT
> janus...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
> We know that Poland tends to change its flag and sovereignty from time
> to time.

Hmm, are you sure? As I remeber it was different country which used to
change its flag and the last time was after our trip to Berlin.

Janusz
mat.voss - 04 Mar 2008 22:25 GMT
>>>>>>>Ooops... I wasn't paying attention and thought it was dechucka replying...
>>>>>>>Damn, I think I need to get some sleep...
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> Hmm, are you sure? As I remeber it was different country which used to
> change its flag and the last time was after our trip to Berlin.

Oh well, I forgot France.

Matthias
janusz_w@hotmail.com - 05 Mar 2008 07:25 GMT
> janus...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
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>
> Matthias

Wrong answer. France have the same flag since 1794.

Janusz

P.S. Is that you Matthias, or maybe some kind of impostor?
mat.voss - 05 Mar 2008 09:35 GMT
>>janus...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
>
> Wrong answer. France have the same flag since 1794.

Wrong question. Be careful not to use too many nouns in your phrases.
You might not be able to sort out to which specific one an answer might
refer.

> Janusz
>
> P.S. Is that you Matthias, or maybe some kind of impostor?

Dumb as ever, aren't we.

Matthias
janusz_w@hotmail.com - 07 Mar 2008 20:26 GMT
> janus...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
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> You might not be able to sort out to which specific one an answer might
> refer.

It's enough to look up and you can find that there were two questions
which contained only one noun. Maybe you're answering questions from
different thread or even  newsgroup. That would explain your
incoherent answers.

> > Janusz
>
> > P.S. Is that you Matthias, or maybe some kind of impostor?
>
> Dumb as ever, aren't we.
So there are two of you?

Janusz

> Matthias
janusz_w@hotmail.com - 03 Mar 2008 19:10 GMT
> >>Sorry to disappoint you, but I'm not an Aussie.
>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> Matthias
Sometimes I have problem to follow your Teutonic sense of humor. Could
you explain what you meant?

Janusz
Ed - 03 Mar 2008 12:37 GMT
> I just relaminated a c-card replaced in 1990 ( after losing the original ).
> Do people still have their original c-cards and does anyone like me use a
> very old one to dive with when ID is necessary ( quite a few " is this card
> for real looks " from the young'uns)?

I am a NEWBIE compared to many of you....my first...YMCA 1981    "BASIC
SCUBA DIVER"   was the certification but the class taught the Navy Deco
diving tables to 160 ft with decompression and no repetitive dives, (no
Surface interval)  just a continuation of the previous dive.  Also have
a padi openwater 1986,  and some newer cards.... padi nitrox 97, padi
rescue 2001, padi DM 2002, SSI DC 2004
Gary R. Schmidt - 03 Mar 2008 13:52 GMT
> I just relaminated a c-card replaced in 1990 ( after losing the original ).
> Do people still have their original c-cards and does anyone like me use a
> very old one to dive with when ID is necessary ( quite a few " is this card
> for real looks " from the young'uns)?
Original C-Card, now where is it...

Oh yes, in my wallet...

Ah, here it is...
FAUI/CMAS SCUBA CERTIFICATION CARD
Signed M. Owen 370 Examiner
Date of Issue: 14/12/78

I've never bothered changing it for anything else, and it's been a bit
of a problem with the PADI people on occasion, but as Marty Owen is
still around, the more intelligent ones eventually realise that people
*did* dive before PADI existed.  Those that don't, well, thinking about
it, they've all gone out of business!!!  I'd like to claim
responsibility, but I suppose that the way they treat those of us in our
late youth is just symptomatic of /why/ they fail.

    Cheers,
        Gary    B-)

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RayC - 03 Mar 2008 18:30 GMT
> I just relaminated a c-card replaced in 1990 ( after losing the original ).
> Do people still have their original c-cards and does anyone like me use a
> very old one to dive with when ID is necessary ( quite a few " is this card
> for real looks " from the young'uns)?

 I still carry my old Divemaster card even though I hardly ever show
it.  It was from PADI training facility 152 (my wife's old shop) is
dated 1984.  I still have all the rest of my cards in storage somewhere
and my earliest "OpenWater" card was from somewhere around 1980.

I had an earlier card that was issued by a dive shop before
certification was required.  I have since lost that one.

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Ron Thompson - 08 Mar 2008 14:49 GMT
Padi OW --  June, 1980

I also have a IANTD enriched air card from 1990 that I still use and a
NSS-CDS Full Cave card from 94
T.L. Davis - 10 Mar 2008 02:19 GMT
>I just relaminated a c-card replaced in 1990 ( after losing the original ).
>Do people still have their original c-cards and does anyone like me use a
>very old one to dive with when ID is necessary ( quite a few " is this card
>for real looks " from the young'uns)?

PADI "Certified Diver" (through YMCA), 1972.  Hair past my shoulders
with a really poor mustache.  Big clunky aviator glasses and a pissed
off look on my face.  Wow, why do I still have this?  Jaques Cousteau
I wasn't and still ain't.

Instructor was L.D. Cleghorn, Arlington, TX...

T. Davis
Dan Bracuk - 10 Mar 2008 02:58 GMT
T.L. Davis <tldavis341@sbcglobal.net> pounded away at his keyboard
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:PADI "Certified Diver" (through YMCA), 1972.  Hair past my shoulders
:with a really poor mustache.  Big clunky aviator glasses and a pissed
:off look on my face.  Wow, why do I still have this?  Jaques Cousteau
:I wasn't and still ain't.

Was there any mask leakage caused by that moustache?

Dan Bracuk
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if two - 16 Mar 2008 19:54 GMT
>I just relaminated a c-card replaced in 1990 ( after losing the original ).
>Do people still have their original c-cards and does anyone like me use a
>very old one to dive with when ID is necessary ( quite a few " is this card
>for real looks " from the young'uns)?

NAUI type written paper card 8/24/69. It's faded but in pretty good shape,
been kept in a fishing license holder. I mostly use a plactic replacement
card I got awhile back, nobody has to ask if its OK.

Steve
dechucka - 16 Mar 2008 23:37 GMT
>>I just relaminated a c-card replaced in 1990 ( after losing the
>>original ). Do people still have their original c-cards and does anyone
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> been kept in a fishing license holder. I mostly use a plactic replacement
> card I got awhile back, nobody has to ask if its OK.

OK I think you win. None of the blokes that I know who were diving in the
60's had a C-card they just went diving.
Grumman-581 - 17 Mar 2008 04:00 GMT
> OK I think you win. None of the blokes that I know who were diving in the
> 60's had a C-card they just went diving.

The 'need' for a C-card was directly related to the shops requiring one in
order for you to get an air fill... Even into the mid-1980s, I was able to
fairly easily get air fills without a C-card... I can even remember
renting gear in the early 1980s without a C-card... I suspect that quite a
few of us from the early days just didn't bother getting one until they
absolutely *had* to... I managed to skate by until 1999... Was taking a
trip to Cozumel and figured that I wouldn't be able to skate by down
there, so I went and got rubberstamped...

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dechucka - 17 Mar 2008 04:32 GMT
>> OK I think you win. None of the blokes that I know who were diving in the
>> 60's had a C-card they just went diving.
>
> The 'need' for a C-card was directly related to the shops requiring one in
> order for you to get an air fill...

Yes

>Even into the mid-1980s, I was able to
> fairly easily get air fills without a C-card... I can even remember
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> trip to Cozumel and figured that I wouldn't be able to skate by down
> there, so I went and got rubberstamped...

My first o/s diving in Asia and America was with a faked up card  with
picture. In the late 70's I needed a card to get gear and fills if you were
"unknown" or unwilling to pay the price.
Lee Bell - 17 Mar 2008 14:09 GMT
>> OK I think you win. None of the blokes that I know who were diving in the
>> 60's had a C-card they just went diving.
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> trip to Cozumel and figured that I wouldn't be able to skate by down
> there, so I went and got rubberstamped...

That was more or less true in my case. My first training was through a YMCA
instructor that needed to keep his training certification current.  That was
in 1962.  No card was issued. By 1969, some local shops were beginning to
ask for certification cards for fills and, every once in a while, would
suggest they would no longer be doing fills for those that could not present
one. It was, then, and is now, simply a way to increase their own revenues.

I simply went someplace else until, in 1969, I had a chance to get certified
more or less for free. I was a lifeguard and swimming instructor for Dade
County. The pool where I worked, offered NAUI scuba training which we were
allowed to take for no more than the cost of the boat ride for check out
dives. It was a deal whose time was right. I took the course and got the
card.

Lee
Lee Bell - 20 Mar 2008 02:05 GMT
> NAUI type written paper card 8/24/69. It's faded but in pretty good shape,
> been kept in a fishing license holder. I mostly use a plactic replacement
> card I got awhile back, nobody has to ask if its OK.
>
> Steve

Congratulations. You just took over the lead. My NAUI card is dated 8-30-69.
You beat me by 6 days.

Lee
Grumman-581 - 20 Mar 2008 02:29 GMT
> Congratulations. You just took over the lead. My NAUI card is dated
> 8-30-69. You beat me by 6 days.

Send me a high resolution scanned in image of your NAUI card and we can
fix that real quick...

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